General Rugby Union Discussion

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by HeathDavisSpeed, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Howe JHF Howe

  2. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

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    English league game? A beaut anyway, #6 and #3 showing up the backs
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2015
  3. Fiery GR Smith

    lol. That's awesome
     
  4. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    Yeah that's epic
     
  5. Howe JHF Howe

    Yeah I think that's Rangi Chase playing for Salford. In League, #6 is a half back and #3 is a centre.
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2015
  6. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    That'd make sense. Not sure why I put it in union.

    One for the CS consensus that league > union then
     
  7. Fiery GR Smith

    6 is a stand-off actually. 7 is a halfback
     
  8. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    I dunno. Some of that defending is embarrassing...
     
  9. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    The english have liberal use of the position half back so who knows Howe may be right in the confines of his own borders, just not down under.
     
  10. Fiery GR Smith


    Hmm. Even allowing for the English and their weird ways I think that's pushing it. They call a 6 in league a five eighth or a pivot here. Never a halfback. A halfback is 7 in league in the UK, and they usually call them a scrum half. To me a halfback in either code is always the bloke who puts the ball into the scrum.
     
  11. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    Well for me in Union there is no halfback position. The halfbacks are the 9 and 10 - scrumhalf and flyhalf.

    No idea how it works in League
     
  12. Fiery GR Smith

    You call a 10 a halfback? wtf?
     
  13. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    In the same way I call a prop a forward yeah.

    Forwards 1-8
    Halfbacks 9-10
    Backs/three quarters 11-15

    That's just how I was taught though
     
  14. Fiery GR Smith

    Weirdo poms :p
     
  15. Howe JHF Howe

    In the UK the term 'half backs' refer to collectively the scrum half and fly half, but I was just wrong in this case as I was trying to communicate in antipodean. Thought Chase was a scrum half but it turns out he's playing stand off there.
     
  16. The Boy Brumby ZJ Brumby

    #10 must be the market leader when it comes to different names:

    fly-half
    stand-off
    out-half
    outside half
    5/8(th)
    1st 5/8th
    1st five
    pivot
    first receiver
     
  17. Weeman27bob BE Force

    5/8th (and related) are definitely the ones that make the least sense in todays game as far as I'm concerned.

    I understand that there's etymological reasons for it, but it definitely doesn't make logical sense in today's game.
     
  18. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Haha
     
  19. Magrat Garlick M Garlick

    How does that sort of thing happen? Just not enough contact so each place settles on their 'standard'?
     
  20. The Boy Brumby ZJ Brumby

    Yeah, I guess it's a factor.

    Union's mostly played by Anglophone countries and in the black and white days before yer interwebz it was a long way from Edinburgh to Dunedin. A lot of the names were country specific; 1st 5/8th is NZ, stand off Welsh and outhalf Irish.

    Union used to be numbered from front to back (as league still is) before it was standardised in the late 50s/early 60s. Think it was a French wheeze to change originally.

    Typically yer Poms were one of the last holdouts and, famously, Leicester (& Bristol I think) used letters rather than numbers until quite recently. Certainly within my watching lifetime. Rowntree, Cockerill & Garforth were called the "ABC" club for this reason.

    Bath used to spurn a #13 too; outside centre was numbered 14 through to #16 at fullback.
     

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