General NRL Discussion

Hahaha look at Perenara the awkward cunt.

 

Not real keen on watching Auckland 9’s during the regular season...

I’ve seen enough from this year to know the players take far longer to adapt than what people think. You don’t play footy for 10 years with certain habits and then just change overnight.

And I think it’s neither fair nor desirable to officiate the ruck differently based on which part of the field you’re in.

 

Okay so I think you’re incorrect on these two points.

1.No I wouldn’t like to see that which is why I don’t want a lot of these penalties blown in the first place. All your policy would result in is 5 or 6 sin binnings on a regular basis. It’s a false assumption to think players respond to incentives or disincentives in an analytical, on paper sort of way with such discretionary play.

2.You said all penalties inside the 20 are deliberate and should result in an initial warning and then the sin bin. That’s clearly a different policy than in the rest of the field, even if you think penalties are committed for different reasons in different parts of the field, which may well be true.

 

Or if you stop blowing nit-picking penalties. That’ll make them go down too and no sin binnings.

 

Sometimes it improves, and sometimes the referees just stop blowing them. It’s a lot of the latter. It’s very similar to the phenomenon of 5th tackle penalties. They are comparatively incredibly rare and it’s nothing to do with defenders becoming more disciplined on last tackle. The refs just do not blow them.

Nah you literally said all pens inside the 20 are deliberate. I don’t have a low opinion of the players. Just a realistic one. This is not like disincentivising the long kick with a 7 tackle set. Players are there to stop their line being breached. That will always trump potential sin binning.

You make a tackle 2m out, quick play-the-ball, dummy-half runs at you and you didn’t have time to get on the line or square at marker. You know if you don’t make the tackle they score. We are never going to get to a stage where defenders are letting him score in that situation. And there are many others like this.

 

Okay so I'm glad you clarified that. Initially you said, broadly, first penalty is a warning and then next penalty is the sin bin full stop. That's simply not doable as I think we both now agree.

To answer the question, yes I think it should obviously be penalised. Whether it's a straight sin bin depends on how blatant it is.

As for dealing with deliberate penalties, I ask again, why officiate the game differently in the red zone? If you're confident in the referee's ability to determine a deliberate penalty, and you think it will reduce or stop deliberate penalties, then why not have the same policy across the board in all parts of the field? If it's true that sin binning quickly or more readily for deliberate penalties reduces them, then surely you'd be arguing for it all over the field?

I don't think it works. You're putting the officials on even more of a hair trigger than they already are. Some holding down and some offsides are so marginal that they barely warrant a penalty. But they're blowing them, and that combined with a hair trigger for sin binnings, will lead to problems.

I'd be absolutely fine (sort of lol) with this crackdown bullshit, and this idea of 1 warning then you're gone, stuff, on the following conditions: All one-on-one tackles are given the latitude of a surrender tackle. And all driving tackles that cost the attacking team field position after the point of contact are considered dominant. We can't just have every fucking new rule and every fucking new interpretation benefitting the attacking side. It's enough.

 

Are the players learning? Ask Michael Jennings...lol 12 minutes in.

 

No way does Morgan or Hess deserve to be playing Origin with their current form.

 

Guy has a bung leg and can't even find touch from a penalty. So what do you do? Give it to him to kick the fg. Bunch of geniuses these blokes.

Then on Thurston's "attempt" make sure you set up for it by shifting wide the play before. Again, how are these guys not in Mensa?

Just another two points thrown away by Nth Qld. 3 from fucking 12...

 

Worse is being right foot kickers they keep positioning to the left of the ruck which makes it easy for defenders to go for the kicking foot. Need to sit to the right of the ruck.

 

That's such a bad ruling. Taylor is 8m from the defensive line and it had zero influence on the play. Should've been a try. Mitchell badly found out there.