FIFA 2013 Awards

Dude, you asked me when the last time I'd actually watched Zlatan play a full match, so I answered your question. You offered just as little of an argument as I did. Zlatan is just so much better. He's a cut above, with everything he does. He scores better goals, he's bigger, he's stronger, he inspires those around him so much. And he has a better goals to game ratio than Suarez (certainyl in terms of this season, but I haven't checked past that)

 

Maybe I am exaggerating the gulf slightly, but Ibra is a better player.


And Ibra scores better goals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IzRpUM2g3Y


Akinfenwa is clearly an exceptional case. It's like saying a body builder is bigger.


Zlatan will drag his team through every time.


Fair enough, I got my numbers wrong there, I must have misread what I was reading. And granted, Zlatan is currently playing in the Ligue 1 which isn't the standard of the Prem, but he will score the way he does against (or indeed for) anyone, as he has done for Barca, Milan, Inter, Juventus, Ajax and indeed PSG against the world's best. Something Suarez hasn't ever done, and the one chance he did have to prove himself to the world, he scored 3 goals (decent) and covered himself in controversy with a red card. I realise that Zlatan hasn't really performed at World Cups (in a team a lot worse than Uruguay) but he has performed consistenly in the best leagues and teams around Europe, and also in the Champions League. Suarez was non existent against all of the best English sides (Arsenal, City, Chelsea and United) this season, and Liverpool lost all of those games. He didn't even score or assist in 170 minutes of football against Jordan. Jordan, for goodness sake. The second game they played against them, Uruguay scored 5 goals, Suarez played 80 minutes and did fuck all. When Suarez performs as well as Zlatan, I'll admit he's a better player. Until then, Zlatan is a better player that Suarez.

 

Clearly I was talking about the League Cup, as that's the only time he's played them. And he still played, regardless of the public perception of the cup. He still could have made a difference, and he's still played against the best sides in England and failed to show up on every single occasion this season.

 

Champions League competitors. I still think they're a big four team, but it was obvious this would be a tough season. In any business/sport/discipline, a wholesale change similar to the one United have gone through this season has more often than not, meant an immediate decline in performance. I'm still sure United will be in the Champions League next season, and as of now, they're still in the best competition in Europe, in the semi finals of a domestic cup and are only 5 points off a top 4 place.

 

I was talking about games against the best teams in England. Those participating in the best competitions.

 

But you can't deny that he did. And he's been arguably worse throughout his career. To bite someone once is bad enough, especially when you get a 7 game ban from it. To neither learn from that, or grow up as a footballer, and to do it again is just despicable. I realise Zlatan isn't a saint, but come on.


That's because Spurs and Everton aren't as big a side as United. It is that simple. 21 league games don't change that.


You've not argued against my point with regards to Jordan, in the slightest. It's not only Jordan that he hasn't performed against for Uruguay. And I didn't argue that he was a flat track bully (whatever you eman by that). I acknowledged that he's a good player, he just simply isn't as good as Zlatan. Therefore, he shouldn't be in the team of the year over Zlatan. His struggling against good teams is just one reason why Zlatan is better.


Hardly. When he improves as a player, and when he's a better player than Zlatan, that's when he'll be the better player.

 

So how have you deduced that from what I've said?

The quality of goals is part of the whole argument, not an argument in itself.