7 Tackle Optional Restart

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Maroon_Faithful, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    By far the worst innovation in recent memory. In itself it is a terrible idea because the punishment is fantastically disproportionate to the "mistake". It was introduced for a weak reason because the prevalance of the problem it ostensibly was designed to prevent was relatively non-existent in the first place. And it's so broad as to punish things completely unrelated to the original motive. Not to mention that it turns golden point into a field-goal-a-thon.

    But the by products are becoming more and more annoying now. Who in their right mind actually thinks the dramatic rise in mid-field bombs is a good thing? It is so prominent and so fucking boring. And this has come about because playmakers are afraid, and rightly so given the extreme punishment, of kicking it dead.

    Tactical mid-field kicking has been eroded. How often do you see last tackle kicks for just this side of the corner post or attempts to pull it up in the in-goal and trap the fullback from 50m out, as compared to 5 years ago? There are essentially only 4 kicks in the modern game now. The grubber, cross-field bomb, mid-field bomb and the punt.

    Terrible, terrible rule imo.
     
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  2. Cribbage RG Cribb

    I didn't hate it at first. I even defended it on here after a season or so, because I liked the fact that there was a big deterrent to just chucking up a bomb into the in-goal after five plays of failure on the attack.

    I still like that, but it ends up way too harsh on slightly-too-long grubbers/punts and, most annoyingly, missed field goal attempts. At the very least they should get rid of the zero tackle after a missed field goal; that situation has nothing to do with why the rule is there.
     
  3. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    There already was a deterrent to that though. I don't think that situation had anything to do with why the rule was brought in either. Seems to me it was all about stopping the deliberately punt going dead to take fullbacks out of that play.
     
  4. Paddy P Orr

    I hate the rule overall but especially when it comes into play after a contest for the ball in goal. You get a 7 tackle set when the ball didn't even go dead.
     
  5. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    I like it for missed field goals. Puts more pressure on nailing it, because if you miss opposition will be in range next set. Should make more teams go for the try. Fuck it, make it a 9 tackle set from a missed field goal.
     
  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    It absolutely does not do that. It often does the opposite.
     
  7. Cribbage RG Cribb

    I actually like it in this situation. Hate bomb lotteries.
     
  8. Julian BJ Taylor

    I go on about this all the time but what I really hates about this is that it most severely penalises the better kicks by offering quick 20 taps only in some instances. If you hoof the ball into the stands from 20 out the ball is gone so no quick tap. But a pinpoint attacking crossfield kick taken by the defending winger with momentum almost presents a try scoring opportunity. And a kick from 65/70 metres away also offers a quick tap option.

    But what really irks me (and most people seem so, so happy with it) is that it offers a dead ball that can be attacked but not defended. When in rugby league has that ever been ok? You've chased hard and the ball trickles out, they pick it up and you can do nothing to defend that player unless you want to be sin binned. A play like this will decide a big game one day.
     
  9. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I think given the immense momentum swings we see from it, it already has.
     
  10. Cribbage RG Cribb

    This post seems much more about the quick taps than the actual seven tackles. They're separate issues really.
     
  11. Magic AJ Parker

    I like the 7 tackle rule on drop goal attempts.

    I'd love to see some stats are field goal attempts in golden point pre- 7 tackle sets and since.

    Means we're not just seeing ridiculous 35m field goal attempts from near the sideline every second set.

    Unless you're Mitchell Pearce of course.
     
  12. Julian BJ Taylor

    Agreed. I'd like to see 7 tackle restarts on drop goal attempts only
     
  13. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Ugh. Are you kidding? It's fucking awful on drop goal attempts as well. It's a drop-goal-a-thon. That's just the mentality of the modern player; they back themselves rather than play percentages. As soon as the first drop goal is attempted (presuming it's not from 45m out) that's it. It just becomes cyclic. You shoot and miss, we march upfield, shoot and miss, then you and so on and so on until someone actually hits it straight.
     
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  14. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    lol yeah that 7 tackle restart really disincentivising the field goal...You blokes are kidding.
     
  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    And that's a dud call by Cecchin. Cordner never got to his feet before planting the ball. You're an idiot, Anasta.
     
  16. Magic AJ Parker

    Because a half with 12 players on the field took a risk?

    Come on MF... you're better than that.

    Context of the game is everything.
     
  17. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    If you think he attempted that shot because Keary was in the bin you are kidding yourself. Look, what you're saying about the 7 tackle rule acting as a deterrent simply isn't true in practice. It's theoretical. How long are you going to go on defending this?

    Maloney had put 5 kicks dead and he still went for it early. It misses the post and that's going dead as well. They try to win it as soon as they get the chance. To say otherwise is just wilfully dumb.
     
  18. Magic AJ Parker

    Give me facts and then I'll admit I'm wrong. It's not theoretical it's an observation from watching games. Only you make observations without watching games :cool:

    Players are more conscious about field goals since the introduction of the 7 tackle set. No doubt in my mind about it.
     
  19. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yeah, that'll tend to happen when you use confirmation bias like you just did with Pearce's attempt. Couldn't be that he's finally started banging over a few this year and backed himself to do it again. Nah. lol.

    Dude, it's well past time. You backed it the rule, like many others, and have been proved wrong. Just deal...
     
  20. GYR DW Lewis

    It's a dud call in context of the rules but as can be seen every year, the NRL don't police the rule of not allowing the ball to touch the ground when regaining feet. So when you take that into context and every other tackle they've been policing, it was 100% the right call.
     

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