2014 Ladder Predictions

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Ged, Mar 1, 2014.

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  1. Lukic L Popovic

    The tries came in the 78th and 80th minute. Game was well and truly over.

    So? Souths came into it off a huge performance against the Roosters in round 1 and a narrow defeat to Manly who are clearly one of the best teams in the comp. Were they at their best vs Manly? Certainly not and I know they didn't play their best against the Tigers, but you can't discredit the Tigers role into why they played as they did. The Tigers were simply quicker off the line, hit harder and just in general did all the little things a lot better throughout.

    That too, but the fact the Warriors scored 5 tries in less than 10 minutes before Potter finally decide to put Bodene Thompson on to mark Hurrell instead was the most important factor.

    The Tigers were up 12-0 and looked in complete control after 30 minutes before Tedesco's injury saw the aforementioned shuffle in the line-up. Obviously the Inglis injury removed a significant portion of Souths potency in attack, but not to significant margin that Tedesco's impacted the Tigers D. The Tigers beat Souths at their own game and dominated them playing smart football. The Warriors ran riot because of the Tigers' injury toll.
     
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    Lukic, Apr 7, 2014
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  2. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Manly are just a good side in general though; it's no surprise that they'd trouble Melbourne. Melbourne don't have a conclusively better side than them so you don't need to find comparable strengths/weaknesses. You need to look deeper to uncover why pretty average sides like the Warriors and Gold Coast trouble them.

    I don't think it's necessarily the amount of offloads either as the quality of them and what they come on the back of. Dane Tilse making 5m, turning his back to the defence and then dumping it out the back is a lot different to Bird cutting back into the middle of the ruck, making 8m and then finding Albert Kelly against a retreating defence just before the held call.
     
    Cribbage, Apr 7, 2014
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  3. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I don't see how that's a challenge to what I said.

    To say Souths dropped the ball as much as they did because of Wests' defence - I'm sorry, that is complete bullshit. Souths were making errors left right and centre that any FG side should not be making. And they've been doing it for a while now.

    12-0 up and that scoreline could easily and in fact should've been 6-6 as you'll recall.

    Without Inglis, you know as well as anyone that Souths attack is going to struggle. Especially when Sutton and Reynolds have been put off balance or off kilter with the fiddling around in the halves.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Apr 7, 2014
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  4. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I don't know who would've won if the injuries hadn't occurred and frankly I don't care.

    The only person reading into this match is the one who's saying it was a certain Tigers victory if Tedesco didn't get injured. He's been blaming every loss they've had on injuries.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Apr 7, 2014
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  5. Magic AJ Parker

    Most of the World Cup players came back to their clubs late January/early February. Most of them would've been lucky to get in 6 weeks pre-season after a 6-8 week break. Compare that to clubs who had their main players and the large bulk of their sides in pre-season for 4-5 months and I have no doubt there's going to be a difference in the way clubs hit the ground running.

    I'll agree to disagree because I think it's a pretty useless discussion without speaking to someone with inside knowledge of how the most affected clubs are travelling but it's just the impression I got in the pre-season, especially from the Roosters & I think pre-seasons are the type of thing that are so undervalued on a forum like this.
     
    Magic, Apr 7, 2014
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  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yeah but why Melbourne? There are lesser defensive sides who have to deal with that too. I'm just not convinced it's the second phase.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Apr 7, 2014
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  7. Magic AJ Parker

    Fox Sports Stats ‏@foxsportsstats 37m
    It's the first time since Rd 16, 1953 (@NRL_Bulldogs -32) that the competition leader has a negative points differential (@GCTitans -9) #NRL
     
    Magic, Apr 7, 2014
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  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yep. Thought that had to be some kind of record.
     
    Maroon_Faithful, Apr 7, 2014
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  9. Sultan Pepper HG Emm

    Could be a defensive structure issue, perhaps they commit more men to the tackle than other sides. Or tell players to put all their effort into getting to a defender if there are already x amount of players in a tackle. Who knows, it certainly seems to have been a trend over the years though.
     
    Sultan Pepper, Apr 7, 2014
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