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Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Alec, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yeah, so good of Stewart to turn in one decent Origin performance after several shockers. Clearly warrants a Test jersey.
     
  2. crowley DA Crowley

    OK so club form over the entire season which culminated in him almost winning Dally M player of the year should not be taken into consideration. Yeah good one.
     
  3. Magic AJ Parker

    Decent, it was better than just decent imo. Not that I ever said he warranted a test jersey solely on that performance but ok.
     
  4. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Soooo over-rated. Such a shit cunt. Better than his brother though.
     
  5. Magic AJ Parker

    Rob Parker?
     
  6. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
     
  7. Old Mate M Perry

    :lol:!!!
     
  8. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Did you just use the Dally M awards to justify his selection in the Test side? And, "almost won Dally M player of the year"? He didn't finish in the top 10 ffs.

    I didn't say his club form shouldn't be taken into consideration. Merely that it should be secondary. After all, we're not picking a club side. We're picking a representative side so it only makes sense to place higher importance on performances most analogous to that, which are obviously his past rep performances for Australia and NSW.

    I could go into a detailed analysis of why I think Glenn Stewart's attack-based game is not suited to what Australia need given we already have a ball-playing backrower in Bird but it's rather incidental IMO.
     
  9. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    What was so good about it?
     
  10. Alec AD Funkotron

    Parker won some shit magazine's player of the year. :ph34r:
     
  11. jazman84 JM Eightyfour

    Johnson is really no chance to play for Australia again so there really isn't any reason to argue his case unless you really want to upset yourself.

    There really is only 4 or so players who will get the gig, and 3 of them only have a chance if Gallen is played at prop.

    Gallen
    Parker
    Bird
    Stewart
     
  12. crowley DA Crowley

    He finished on 18 points after losing 9 for the suspension which would have had him in 2nd position with 2 rounds remaining. The point being that he was consistently one of the best players this season and IMO deserving of a Test spot if Gallen is not picked at lock.
    His previous rep form was good enough if selection is to be based on that (which it shouldn't be)
    You don't need to provide a detailed analysis as to why you think Bird should be selected above him because that wouldn't change my opinion.
     
  13. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    And my point is, club form is incidental when picking a Test side and using Dally M points is absurd. I mean is Matty Bowen deserving of a Test jersey because of where he finished?

    Nah it really isn't. Compared to Bird's it's garbage.

    But you're right, I mean why pick a rep team based on past rep performances. Makes so much more sense to pick one based on 8 weeks of club footy.

    No shit, because you're a Manly supporter.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2011
  14. Magic AJ Parker

    That in a beaten forward pack he looked like creating something nearly every time. Was our best forward after Gallen, 39 tackles to boot
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2011
  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    How was he better than Bird?

    Here are Glenn Stewart's touches.

    6.10 - Simple hit-up from his own end.
    29.00 - Simple hit-up two passes wide from his own end.
    38.50 - No look, flick pass offload on 2nd tackle from his own 20m line which is knocked up in the air by QLD and luckily regained by Minichiello. Only good fortune stopped QLD from getting yet another set in NSW's 20m zone with 90 seconds before HT. Idiotic play.
    39.19 - Catch and pass out the back to Minichiello. Gasnier as decoy.
    39.37 - Receives Gidley offload, just hits it up after running across field.
    41.05 - Starts on a straight hit-up but then veers across field, gets a good ball away to Lewis and out to Morris for a good gain.
    48.18 - Cuts back in on an angle from Soward. Hits the line and then runs sideways and backwards and is tackled.
    54.14 - Picks up loose ball from a Thurston error and is quickly set upon and tackled.
    55.25 - Again runs and inside line off Soward and is well tackled down low by Cronk.
    55.55 - Makes a good 15m run.
    73.33 - Simple hit-up from a tap.
    74.10 - Tries to beat Inglis on the outside but is tackled.
    77.08 - Cleans up a Lockyer kick on his own goal line.
    79.29 - Takes a hit-up and once again runs sideways before being tackled.

    What on earth is so special about that performance? How was it any better than Watmough's?

    Bird's single piece of footwork to beat Hodges and send Morris away was better than anything Stewart did. And if I went through the whole match there'd be little doubt who the better attacker was and is. Bird ran straighter, harder and still produced better ball work than Stewart.
     
  16. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Yeah and Bird made 37, plus more metres from fewer runs, and did it with 26 minutes less playing time.
     
  17. Magic AJ Parker

    Watmough was average, he got credited quite a few metres for his linebreak but got smashed all game and I'm one of his biggest fans. I thought Bird was largely impotent but still pretty good, had him about the same as Stewart. Not sure why it really matters though I still rate his game as better than decent even if Bird or any other forward was slightly better than him.

    Never really been a big fan of Stewart but credit where credit's due, he's been killing it this season and I don't think Parker's a better option than him.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2011
  18. Old Mate M Perry

    If Gallen can play prop, so can Parker. :ninja:
     
  19. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Did he win RLW player of the year? Awesome

    I agree, TBH. Wouldn't be as good as Gallen at it, but he would still do well.
     
  20. Hughesy JM Hughes

    What about Tim Grant? :troll:
     

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