Why Isn't NSW Producing Origin Halves?

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Maroon_Faithful, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Straight forward question.

    From 1980 to 2005 they produced Raudonikis, Sterling, Kenny, Mortimer, Hasler, Lamb, Fittler, Daley, Johns, Stuart, Toovey, Lyons and Kimmorley (before he was washed up.)

    Since then they've had:
    An over-the-hill Kimmorley, Anasta, Pearce, Carney, Finch, Gower, Gasnier, Bird, Mullen, Wallace, Campese, Barrett, Lyon, Soward, Maloney, Hodkinson, and Reynolds. How the fuck do you not find even one player in that lot who solidifies a spot?

    The only problem they used to have was who they were going to pick among a plethora of options. Johns or Toovey, who plays 9, who plays 7? Does Fittler move into the forwards or do we shift Daley to centre? Should we use the Parra combination of Sterling/Kenny or Turvey Mortimer? These days its who the fuck do we try now?
     
  2. Wilson SB Wilson

    Because you touch yourself at night
     
  3. Old Mate M Perry

    A lot of those players you mentioned are pretty good.
     
  4. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    They have decent halves, they just don't pick them.
     
  5. Alex AJ O'Driscoll

    Too busy producing Test cricketers.
     
  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Nah they've picked everybody. Sure some of them weren't given a proper shot for long enough (Mullen and Campese come to mind) but it's not as if the blokes, who, we on here who claim to know better than the NSWRL, haven't been picked at all.

    Aside from Mullen and Campese they've handed jerseys to any and all that we Cricsimmers wanted picked - Carney, Soward, Kimmorley. I think there'd be some truth in saying when they were actually picked they probably weren't partnered with the right foil at halfback but that can only go so far in explaining why none of them did any good.

    The failure to produce even one regular half in 10 years whose selection can be pencilled in before the season even starts, I don't think can be blamed on their chop and change policy or the lack of a decent halves partner. Nor playing behind a consistently beaten pack. They simply didn't play well enough.

    Carney is the pick of that lot and the cunt was pretty average. If given more time yeah he might've come good but I'm inclined to doubt it. He could just as easily have struggled to replicate his club form, just as every other Blues half has.
     
  7. Toolman TR Man

    It's a cultural problem. NSW has more of a maternal culture now whereas parts of QLD still has masculine aspects. Many QLD players can still round up cows or do hard labour and had Dads who taught them how to be men. So when they're out in the field and it gets tough they have that masculine determination inside them to keep focused and keep going. Whilst most of those new NSW players are city boys, raised by single mothers or soft Dads. When it gets tough on the field you see them become the lost boys they still are deep inside.
     
  8. Mr Chook MR Chook

    Wait till Jacko comes of age.:happy:
     
  9. Julian BJ Taylor

    We've seen enough abject failure from roosters halves thank you.
     
  10. Dan DB Wayne

    Over-coaching at junior levels, perhaps?

    I won't claim to know much about rugby league, but perhaps halves aren't learning how to actually run and control a game as they really should, with everything reliant on set plays, pre-match plans and orders from the coach. And I don't think its endemic to NSW -- I wouldn't be surprised if that's some degree of why Cherry-Evans hasn't impressed much in rep footy, despite being a beast of a talent at club level.

    Queensland, I think, just happened to produce a spine of Thurston-Cronk-Smith who did learn how to run and control a game. I don't think Queensland's depth halves would be any better or worse than those NSW is churning out.
     
  11. Boobidy BJ Gemmell

    Our depth is much better. Our next 5 or 6 blokes waiting behind those 3 you mentioned would be a walk up start for NSW.
     
  12. Julian BJ Taylor

    Because when we do they act like this:

    The statement of defence also revealed a litany of other alleged incidents in which Carney breached his obligations, including:
    - Abusing a taxi driver in July 2013 while intoxicated;
    - Attending training in April 2014 "under the effect of alcohol and medication taken other than in accordance with prescription";
    - Ignoring a warning about his behaviour in a letter written by the CEO the following month;
    - "Habitual drunkenness"
    Further, it's alleged the former Dally M medallist treated the bubbler incident "as a joke" by telling the CEO on June 29 that "[the photograph] is genuine, some bloke took it. Oh, but it is OK 'cause I didn't get any piss in my mouth."


    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...iscretions-20160414-go6pcc.html#ixzz45qliKH6B

     
  13. Old Mate M Perry

    In that case he literally got sacked for hanging a piss, in a bathroom while a bloke took a photo of him.
     
  14. Ged GEC King

    I've done a bubbler before. It's a bloody good laugh when you're just on the turps with your mates. It's so unexpected that it always elicits laughs.
     
  15. Fiery GR Smith

    You filthy fucker. Does it taste alright?
     
  16. Ged GEC King

    You don't actually swallow it. It's just for the laugh.
     
  17. Fiery GR Smith

    You don't have to swallow things to taste them. That's naasty man
     
  18. Mr Fourex MR Fourex

    Some cunts wil do anything to get attention.
     
  19. Fiery GR Smith

    :laugh: Exactly
     

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