Super Rugby 2016

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by Fiery, Feb 13, 2016.

  1. Rego RS Hutchinson

    The problem with that bet is the low odds, I'll just throw this fact in that the Lions have only been in 2 games that were decided by 11 points or less. The style they play either means they win good, or lose ugly. You'd probably be better investing money in the total match points to be over 51 or at the same odds ($1.10) going with the over 34.

    Unless you're multi-ing it just seems like a poor valued bet. I'd much rather risk say $10 to profit $11 (Landers head to head) than risk $110 to profit $11 ( Landers +15.5) in a game which is more likely out of the 2 semis to be run away with by either team. Even the Landers +5.5 in sake of the H2H or even replacing these options with the Lions.
  2. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    But I will be multi-ing it. Of course you are right $1.10 is ridiculous as an outright bet. But it is a guaranteed to come in and will enhance my first leg - which will probably be a Cheifs 8.5 points start. And then I will slap a decent bet on it.
  3. Rego RS Hutchinson

    "guaranteed" hmm. I do think the Landers will win though so you should be safe, people are looking into the Saders quarter too much, they were weak, had been for a number of weeks.

    Yeah honestly the money is in the Canes v Chiefs game, maybe not so much the H2H but all these handicaps are very enticing, even some other bets too.
  4. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Your words effected me [MENTION=2357]Rego[/MENTION] and I changed my bet, I have gone with a hunch that the lions will score first.

    CHFS +8.5 @$1.52
    1st Team to Score
    FPW1 Lions @$1.87
    ALL 2 TO WIN $28.50
  5. Rego RS Hutchinson

    I assume scoring is any points? will probably be whoever gets the first penalty close to the sticks realistically - definitely a 50/50 bet but if it pays off it bumps that Chiefs +8.5 massively.

    You headed to the game tomorrow night?
  6. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Nah, you going in I take it? Should be epic. Wish I had a cow bell ;)

    Regarding my bet I think it is 70/30 that the Lions score first. Lima likes to kick away possession early doors and only start the running game some 10-15 minutes into the contest. I also think that the SA teams seem to start strong even if they end up getting whipped.
  7. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Also the more I think about it I reckon it will be plus 51.5...Lions will defo put on 20 points and so will the landers.
  8. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Yeah, umm I think Westpac stadium must have banned cowbells, saw a few people getting them confiscated at the gate in the Canes v Chiefs match I went to earlier in the season. Not a bad tactic even if I say so myself. Hopefully the weather is better this week than last week, can't really get any worse than last week's conditions.

    The plus 51 is very enticing. I normally lay off a bit when it comes to play off time (anything could happen type thing) but will probably hit that up, at the very least something like over 45.
  9. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Yeah high 40s is a certainty. Yer TAB is only offering 51.5

    I will stick with the TAB for all the reasons I have said before, they are a NZ company, and they appear solid enough and try hard.
  10. Rego RS Hutchinson

    It's a shame they don't offer alternative total match points. Yeah that's fair enough, I've always maintained that I'd open an account with them if they provided a better odd on something I wanted to bet on, that's never happened. In fairness they probably actually weight their odds more correctly than other sites , especially when it comes to NPC but that in turn means they have shitter odds as other bookies generally are a little off.
  11. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I have applied for jobs there before Rego and if you are going to be in the Wellington job market you may wish to support them as well as there are only about 50-60 legitimate employers in all of Wellington if you want to be in business.

    What is your degree in by the way?
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2016
  12. Hurricane JD Hurricane

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    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]30 Jul 2016 19:35[/TD]
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    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]31 Jul 2016 01:00[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: transparent"]Lions v Highlanders
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  13. Rego RS Hutchinson

    I'm in Accountancy, I have been signed for a job down in Welly starting next year for one of NZ's biggest accountancy firms (and one of the bigger ones worldwide).

    I don't necessarily feel bad for not betting with them as at this stage my history shows I'd cost them money.

    Personally I reckon a place like the TAB would be pretty good to work for depending the role. It's a shame there's not more opportunities there.
  14. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Yep I like this multi, will probably place a similar one with maybe the match points slightly lower. I am a little concerned with the travel factor of the Chiefs, that does have the potential for the Canes to run away with it but let's face it - it's the Canes, they'll let points slide against other NZ teams.
  15. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Congrats on the job Rego.

    Make it work for you. I think starting your career as a young bloke working for a top Acctg firm is excellent. They are used to training young bucks and will pair you up with a team leader around 25-26 years old who will show you the ropes (and boss you around in a good way).

    Work hard, be determined and make this opportunity work for you. Do work late when you have to and don't complain, do go home on time when you can too as it is not the hare that wins the race but the slow and steady tortoise. The last piece of advice I have for you as a young online buddy entering the workforce is that what will get you places will be your people skills. Don't be in a rush to be promoted in your 20s your turn will come, just try to learn a lot from watching how more senior managers do things. Losers find faults in their managers instead of concentrating on what they can learn.

    Sorry for that speech - as a 43 year old veteran of the business world I have plenty of advice - hope you didn't mind all of that. Wish you well.
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2016
  16. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Don't mind it at all, I'm definitely someone that loves any advice that I can get. What's your area of expertise if you don't mind me asking?

    I was propositioned by a few firms but chose the one that essentially had the best work-life balance and an environment I believe I could learn and progress the best in. I'm always happy to work the extra yard but I feel a lot of firms just expect it from you rather than value it, my starting pay suffers a little bit but I'd much rather that than be in a kiss ass environment. I'm not even contracted to work the "traditional" 40 hour week. I'm definitely someone that doesn't want to be your typical accountant for the rest of my life, I've made that clear to them and the place I'm working for has said I can make a managerial role within 4 years if I'm committed. I wouldn't call it cocky as such, I certainly wouldn't take the leap until I believed I was able to - at this point in time I just want to learn, take it day by day and go from there. I've worked in a small "local" accounting environment and even volunteered for Not for Profits. Whilst they (small firm) wanted to keep me, they can't provide me with the training these bigger firms will be able to, so they're happy for me to lead on to what I hope bigger things. I'm looking forward to just learning and going from there. I'll take it day by day and put the hard yards in for now.
  17. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Great attitude and smart thinking Rego sounds like you have things well in hand.
    Additional comments
    1) don't be afraid to admit in your first two years (not to clients though) that you are learning and enjoying yourself. If you make yourself vulnerable then some of the older hands will give you advice and make things easy and straight forward.

    I used to be a marketing manager Rego and started as a marketing graduate student way back in 1995. These days I work for the government introducing and designing new "services" for new zealanders to use. We design the service on paper, test it with customers, then figure out how much it will cost to build, then write a business case, then we write "requirements" and hand it over to the IT division to write the software and build it. I have worked with plenty of ex accountants. A Chartered accountancy designation is better than a MBA (and I have one of those degrees).

    The very final thing I can offer Rego is, not all the time, but once in a blue moon ask for hints, the best bit of advice I ever got came from taking the vice president of marketing for lunch and asking him some hints of what the keys to his success were and what advice he might have for a young bloke like me. His advice was as follows Rego

    A good business person Hurricane is someone who lines people up before the meeting, then when they make their pitch in the meeting they have already overcome all the objections in advance and get a tick.

    I was suprised I was actually just expecting him to tell me to work hard and be enthusiastic but he gave me that specific advice instead.

    It doesn't have to be the VP either, just someone you look up to. Even if they are only on one or two rungs above you.

    Anyway - all for now Rego. Thanks for sharing and thanks for not minding the advice.
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2016
  18. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Fuck yes!!!! So happy, amazing defence. Haven't let in a try all play offs.

    Also didn't manage to get any bets on this game as ran out of time which was a blessing in disguise, sooo happy.
  19. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I won't be saying this on my official rugby web site, but Dave Rennie is a master at player development but he is a shit house coach. TKB was the starting halfback and laid an egg. The offence only got rolling when Weber came on the field yet for inexplicable reasons Weber also laid an egg and put in a shit performance probably because he had to chase the game.
    What is fucks name was Sam Cane trying to accomplish on that B Barrett intercept try, he is a not a fucking 1st 5, yet he looked like he wanted to be general of the back line and take the ball near the line of contact before delivering an inch perfect pass to set the back line away.

    I never want to cheer for the cheifs again unless we get rid of the following people

    Sam Cane
    James Lowe
  20. Fiery GR Smith


    Well done [MENTION=2357]Rego[/MENTION]. You called it

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