I'm going to make some comparisons between the two since Shakib made his debut. Vettori - 970 runs at 38.80 and 64 wickets at 30.93. Shakib - 715 runs at 29.79 and 48 wickets at 28.27 Leave out Vettori's games against Bangladesh and it reads - Vettori - 691 runs at 32.90 and 44 wickets at 38.40. Like I said, it's close.
Oh and originally you were comparing stats from the last 5 years? You obviously know that in terms of careers Shakib averages more than Vettori with the bat and less with the ball?
Fine then, rule out more than half of his career, and judge him off a mere 15 matches, see if I care. If you take all his Bangladesh games in that time, he doesn't have a single one on the subcontinent, whereas Shakib gets half his games there.
Indeed. Shakib however hasn't been around anywhere near long enough for me to consider him. It'd be like saying Mendis is better than Murali already.
While your trying to make Shakib look better, take out all of his bad games. He will look like a much better player.
Mendis isn't better than Murali but the chances of Mendis outperforming Murali if they were to play a series tomorrow aren't exactly small. It's happened before .
I haven't touched Shakib tbf, just showing the fact that Shakib doesn't have the luxury of bowling to the Bangladesh line-up or bat against the Bangladesh attack.
Doesn't mean he's the better player though. Same thing with Vettori and Shakib IMO. I don't think anyone really doubts that Hauritz is the worst Australian bowler, but he's having the best series atm.
Slightly different as Hauritz is over performing and shouldn't be doing as well as he is. The difference in ability between Murali and Mendis or between Vettori and Shakib isn't that great. Both of the more inexperienced of the pair have proven them selves to be excellent cricketers in their fledgling careers.
Over time I think Shakib will falter though, particularly with his batting. There's only so much responsibility one player can have. Throw in Vettori's obv. superior captaincy and he's got him well covered for mine.
Yeah I'm not saying Vettori was a shit pick and you should've chosed Shakib, I originally said it was debatable, which we've both proven to be true . Bit harsh to comment on Shakib's captaincy yet, TBH he just led Bangaldesh to their first ever overseas white wash, so he's already done better than all previous Bangladesh captains. Shakib probably will have a rough patch in his career, all players do, I'm just hoping he doesn't shoulder the responsibility for ever and that Bangladesh can produce one or two more players as gifted as him to help shoulder the work.