Manly vs Warriors

Discussion in 'Matches' started by Maroon_Faithful, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    You can take my word for it or not. I don't give a shit either way. Look up the stats at NRL Stats for yourself.
     
  2. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

  3. Howsie DP Howell

    Someone to post if they can find it the Warriors winning percentage when Vatuvei does and does not play for the Warriors over the past three seasons. From memory it's diabolical.
     
  4. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Errors per game - 2010 wingers


    1. Manu Vatuvei (Warriors) - 1.67
    2. Blake Ferguson (Cronulla) - 1.59
    3. Akuila Uate (Newcastle) - 1.57
    4. Joel Monaghan (Canberra) - 1.42
    5. Luke MacDougall (Melbourne) - 1.40
    6. Kevin Locke (Warriors) - 1.36
    7. Fetuli Talanoa (South Sydney) - 1.19
    8. Lote Tuqiri (Wests Tigers) - 1.19
    9. Daniel Vidot (Canberra) - 1.15
    10. Matthew Duffie (Melbourne) - 1.14
    11. John Williams (North Queensland) - 1.14
    12. Krisnan Inu (Parramatta) - 1.13
    13. Phil Graham (Sydney Roosters) - 1.10
    14. Tony Williams (Manly) - 1.00
    15. Nathan Merritt (South Sydney) - 0.95
    16. Brett Morris (St George Illawarra) - 0.95
    17. Michael Gordon (Penrith) - 0.94
    18. Isaac Gordon (Cronulla) - 0.93
    19. Bill Tupou (Warriors) - 0.91
    20. Bryson Goodwin (Canterbury-Bankstown) - 0.89
    21. Jharal Yow Yeh (Brisbane) - 0.88
    22. David Mead (Gold Coast) - 0.87
    23. Luke Covell (Cronulla) - 0.80
    24. Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra) - 0.78
    25. Cooper Vuna (Newcastle) - 0.77
    26. Antonio Winterstein (Brisbane) - 0.76
    27. Kevin Gordon (Gold Coast) - 0.76
    28. Sam Perrett (Sydney Roosters) - 0.75
    29. Steve Turner (Canterbury-Bankstown) - 0.71
    30. Ashley Graham (North Queensland) - 0.70
    31. Michael Robertson (Manly) - 0.63
    32. Brad Tighe (Penrith) - 0.60
    33. Luke Burt (Parramatta) - 0.58
     
  5. Howsie DP Howell

    Seriously? You actually think that?
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2010
  6. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    FMD.
     
  7. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I know it. His work from dummy-half is the best of any winger in the game, and there's good statistical evidence to support that theory.
     
  8. Jabba HJ Bots

    Depends who your other players in the backline are imo. If I had someone like GInglis at centre I'd take Perrett hands down but if I had someone like Lyon I'd take Vatuvei.
     
  9. Julian BJ Taylor

    Perrett, since moving back to the wing, has become possibly the most under rated player in the game.
     
  10. Howsie DP Howell

    Haha, just because you say Perrett makes yarder yards doesn't actually make it so.
     
  11. BigGuns DA Astele

    Nah not under rated imo, certainly not the most UR'd in the game thats for sure. He will probs make the Kiwi team.
     
  12. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Look up the stats on NRLstats.com and compare Perrett's dummy-half metres, with Vatuvei's hit-up and dummy-half metres.
     
  13. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Vatuvei's hit-ups are a lot harder yards than Perrett's dummy half runs though. Perrett slips in there when he sees the markers aren't ready or when there's a roll on and pinches 9m before diving at the lock's feet.. Vatuvei hits it up like a front rower in traffic.

    Perrett's a very good dummy half runner and it's a valuable asset but to say he makes harder yards than Vatuvei would be ridiculous.
     
  14. BigGuns DA Astele

    Perretts 320 runs for 9 line breaks is not very impressive tbh.
     
  15. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    The majority of Perrett's DH runs are from his own end. I didn't say he makes harder yards. I said, of the hard yards, Perrett makes more.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2010
  16. BigGuns DA Astele

    I would say most dummy half runs from every winger are from there own end.
     
  17. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    I agree. That strengthens my point. People think of Vatuvei as a helper of the front rowers - Perrett does far more, regardless of whether he takes a ruck from acting half or first receiver, like Vatuvei.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2010
  18. BigGuns DA Astele

    When people think of Manu they think of a try scoring match winner imo, not a part time front rower.
     
  19. Cribbage RG Cribb

    If the markers are set though, Perrett just doesn't take the run. Running from dummy half only works at certain junctures, regardless of how good at it you are. Vatuvei's can make metres from his own end even against a set defence.
     
  20. Maroon_Faithful M Faithful

    Some of you aren't reading what I'm writing.
     

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