lol @ the EPL

Discussion in 'Association Football Discussion' started by Toolman, Apr 5, 2013.

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  1. Riddy JH Ridd

    apparently?!?! :laugh:

    Also i disagree with it being better if it was united v city.

    what made it so special was flicking between both matches, plus the fact qpr had to get some points in their own relegation scrap.
     
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    Riddy, Apr 5, 2013
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  2. Toolman TR Man

    Yep. If Rooney, Van Persie, Nani, and a few others were injured for the first half of the season, came back halfway through, started smashing teams, finished 6th, and smashed every team in the finals, do you think they didn't deserve it?
     
    Toolman, Apr 5, 2013
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  3. Cribbage RG Cribb

    I'm a big fan of having a final series but this works both ways.

    If Rooney, Van Persie, Nani, and a few others played all season and the finished first by the length of the straight, then they all got injured in the last week of round robin matches and went out the back door in the finals, do you think they didn't deserve to win?
     
    Cribbage, Apr 5, 2013
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  4. Lukic L Popovic

    So they deserve a chance at winning the league due to injuries but not a shot at champions league....
     
    Lukic, Apr 5, 2013
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  5. Riddy JH Ridd

    this is such a shit thread tbh. if it aint broke, dont fix it.
     
    Riddy, Apr 5, 2013
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  6. Toolman TR Man

    That wouldn't happen because those players would be rested in the last game.
     
    Toolman, Apr 5, 2013
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  7. Toolman TR Man

    That's just unfortunate. Champions league is just a bonus at the end, everybody would mainly care about the league finals after an entire season of build up.
     
    Toolman, Apr 5, 2013
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  8. Cribbage RG Cribb

    What if they got injured in the second last game then? They wouldn't all be rested for a month.

    Point is; injuries can happen at any time. And while I agree with the ideal of having a period in which you must lift to the occasion and beat the best in a play-off rather than just avoiding having the odd off game and losing to shunts, I don't really buy the injury argument. You're just as likely to have injuries in the final as you are to have injuries mid-season and while you can afford to drop a couple of games due to injury mid-season if you're good enough, you can't afford to drop a final due to injury. You're just automatically fucked if you lose that.
     
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    Cribbage, Apr 5, 2013
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  9. Toolman TR Man

    The injury example was to combat the argument of it being unfair that 6th place can be champions. Sometimes it is fair that 6th place wins it if they prove to be worthy.

    But to be fair, injuries are a great example of why the current structure can fail as well. And that's not very fair. All it takes is a few bad games and you're out of the running to finish first.
     
    Toolman, Apr 5, 2013
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  10. Riddy JH Ridd

    :laugh: stop trolling
     
    Riddy, Apr 5, 2013
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  11. Magic AJ Parker

    The biggest issue for me is that England don't have one main Cup that every club really wants to win. I agree with Toolman that there's just not enough big games where everything is on the line between two of the best sides.

    Adding a finals comp at the end of the season is one way to ensure that but cutting the League Cup thus giving the FA Cup more priority & prestige would be just as effective imo.

    End of the day I'm sure all any football lover wants to see is the two best sides playing in a game that means everything and we don't get that enough in English Football.
     
    Magic, Apr 5, 2013
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  12. Magic AJ Parker

    How have you not been cockblocked from this thread?
     
    Magic, Apr 5, 2013
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  13. Verigoat S Verigotta

    Injuries are a lot better handled in our league structure though

    A top player gets injured for 2 weeks and you really rely on them, doesn't really affect you're teams performance.

    A top player get injured for a couple of months, you're squad has to deal with it, if you can't get top 4 without that single player then you don't deserve top 4 regardless of how you play when they come back.
     
    Verigoat, Apr 5, 2013
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  14. Verigoat S Verigotta


    But you do get to see it more in Italian football, Spanish football and German football?
     
    Verigoat, Apr 5, 2013
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  15. Magic AJ Parker

    Not sure what that has to do with my argument, but no.
     
    Magic, Apr 5, 2013
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  16. Riddy JH Ridd

    jesus christ.
     
    Riddy, Apr 5, 2013
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  17. Verigoat S Verigotta

    Everyone seems to be having a go at English football, but if the exact same set up as the other 3 top 4 leagues in the world

    Can't be too much wrong with the structure
     
    Verigoat, Apr 5, 2013
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  18. Baxter MJ Deane

    Football is a squad game so the injury argument can do one.
    38 games are a far better judge of the best side than 1.
     
    Baxter, Apr 5, 2013
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  19. Toolman TR Man

    Yeah I know, forget the injury argument.
     
    Toolman, Apr 5, 2013
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  20. Magic AJ Parker

    You don't think the League Cup is a bit counterproductive or are you incapable of actually stringing more than one sentence together?
     
    Magic, Apr 5, 2013
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