Built a team and a culture on systematic cheating, were so dominant through that cheating that every other side tried to copy/adopt their methods, every team now seems to have played the same about a decade. They're were a financial basket case and propped up by news corp for ages, who knows if they actually have any real fans (their numbers are good now but playing in half of the grand finals for a decade and making the top 4 just about every year will do that). The development of their spine (which I doubt very much stays together without the initial cheating) could also be argued to have impacted origin. It seems to me the little parts of their game plan that eventually spread over the entire nrl, general ruck nonsense, wrestling, the double sweeper play etc, are simple but designed to turn the game into a grind where they'd back themselves in precisely because they'd have a team that was worth twice as much as everyone else. No they've been back on the same cap as everyone else, but theyve maintained that ill gotten culture and those ill gotten stars. You look at the teams that were in grand finals about the time the storm started their dominance and who there key/spine players were, generally within two years at least one was gone (or they were just shit). 04 Dogs: Patten, Sherwin, Anasta: Anasta went to Roosters in 06 05 Tigers: Benji, Prince, Farah: Prince left for Titans 07 06 Broncos: doesn't really apply, although Hunt was gone in his prime 07 Manly: Monaghan, Stewart, Orford: Monaghan to super league 08 Manly: Orford, Ballin, Stewart: Orford gone 09 Parra: bit of a special case given their shitness prior and post grand final 10: Dragons: Boyd, Soward, Hornby: Boyd gone two years later 11 Manly: actually held together quite well, although have since lost Foran 12: Dogs: Barba gone to Broncos 13: Roosters: Friend, Maloney, Pearce, (SBW)--- Maloney gone, SBW gone 14: Souths: Inglis, Reynolds, Luke, (Burgess): Luke gone 2 years later, Burgess gone following year I just see no possible way they keep all 3 of Cronk, Slater, Smith there their entire careers given this trend without the initial cheating Any one agree with the general gist?