Gerrard V Scholes

Discussion in 'Association Football Discussion' started by GIMH, May 12, 2013.

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  1. Eds E Ames

    At risk of sounding like I'm defending everything Gerrard does, I'd have thought it was pretty clear why commentators get excited when he's shooting from outside the box.

    Almost always drills it into a defender, though, really? Come on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm0q6P_lljc
     
    Eds, May 12, 2013
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  2. GingerRob RP West

    Yes, almost always, goals per shot outside the box, not that many.
     
    GingerRob, May 12, 2013
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  3. Eds E Ames

    Did it against Chelsea for Drogba when Chelsea were on the verge of winning the league, IIRC.
     
    Eds, May 12, 2013
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  4. Eds E Ames

    :laughing: He's proven he's more than capable than almost anyone else at shooting from outside the box. What're you expecting, every shot to go in? Commentators get excited when anyone who's got a history of outstanding long-range goals gets the ball in a bit of space around the edge of the area. See: Bale recently.
     
    Eds, May 12, 2013
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  5. GingerRob RP West

    They are just hoping for a sound bite and want to empty their load over him.
     
    GingerRob, May 12, 2013
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  6. Baxter MJ Deane

    Or Lampard
    Or Scholes
    tbf
     
    Baxter, May 12, 2013
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  7. Eds E Ames

    Right, okay.
     
    Eds, May 12, 2013
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  8. Eds E Ames

    Yeah exactly. I'm not arguing Gerrard is better ffs, but when he seems to think it's odd commentators getting excited about the likes of Gerrard/Lampard/Scholes getting the ball in a bit of space on the edge of the box, there's something wrong.
     
    Eds, May 12, 2013
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  9. GingerRob RP West

    No, it is the way they do it. ;)

    Nothing odd about my view. :P
     
    GingerRob, May 12, 2013
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  10. Baxter MJ Deane

    Oh yeah, for sure. It's just you seemed to be advancing the argument they do it for Gerrard because he's known to rifle them into the top bin, without noting that
    it applies to the others too.
     
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    Baxter, May 12, 2013
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  11. GingerRob RP West

    I always thought Scholes made a choice not to tackle properly, no one has a career like his and doesn't try work on it.
     
    GingerRob, May 12, 2013
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  12. loganb JEM Logan

    :lol:
     
    loganb, May 13, 2013
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  13. Furball G Furball

    02/03. United's second half of the season revival was on the back of Scholes.

    Carrying a team to a Champions League isn't as impressive as a league title either.
     
    Furball, May 13, 2013
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  14. Furball G Furball

    It's not really.

    200 goals in 12 years from midfield, helped his team to much more silverware than Gerrard has and is far more consistent. Gerrard's highs are higher, his best performances are better than Lampard's, but that's precisely the reason that Gerrard hasn't got a league winner's medal. Lampard consistently does it against everyone.
     
    Furball, May 13, 2013
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  15. Furball G Furball

    Also, stating that Gerrard carried Liverpool to a Champions League does a massive disservice to Jerzy Dudek and that linesman in the semi final.
     
    Furball, May 13, 2013
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  16. GIMH GIMH Martyn

    And Hamman & Smicer.

    Gerrard dragged them through that competition at times though tbf.
     
    GIMH, May 13, 2013
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  17. loganb JEM Logan

    Scholes is the pinnacle of professionalism.
     
    loganb, May 13, 2013
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  18. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    So many United players say that Paul Scholes was the best player they ever played with. That says it all for me when you consider the players we've had
     
    BoyBlunder, May 13, 2013
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  19. Uppercut CB Faldo

    Yeah it's harsh on Benitez too, and Luis Garcia's screamers seem written out of history altogether. Their most convincing performance was arguably Juve away, when Gerrard didn't play. I've always hated the "single-handed" myth about Gerrard in '05, but it's sort of how people see the game in England.

    I definitely think Lampard belongs in the debate but I can't really split the three. Gerrard always seemed at his best as the stand-out player in an underdog side, which what Liverpool needed, but personally I do sort of respect it less than being part of a title-winning side. Scholes was a bit more low-key, especially late in his career. He would open up space for team-mates in a way that made them look like the star players, a bit like Alonso did at Liverpool. Lampard's insane levels of fitness and consistency don't really get enough respect and in the role Mourinho found for him he was a title-winning machine.
     
    Uppercut, May 13, 2013
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  20. Furball G Furball

    He chickened out of making it 3-3 as well.
     
    Furball, May 13, 2013
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