Might help if you made a point that made sense. I'm most interested in hearing why Young's better than Milner, I'd guess you've not seen a Villa game this season? Much the same why you rate Agbonglahor so highly, he's not performed anywhere near the level he was last season, or even the level he was at the beginning of the season. You do manage to come out with some shit though.
Imbocile. He's a ****ing holding midfielder. That's like saying Song is shit because he's scored 1 goal this season. That's a good return for a centre mid. And he is a great defender. He really, really is.
You're the one that said he scores crucial goals, does he ****. The **** hardly ever scores. He's not a great defender, he really isn't a great tackler. He's a poor man's Gareth Barry and Barry's hardly excellent.
Look at the goals he does score. Numerous games Carrick has popped up on the edge of the air and slotting one home in the last few minutes to win the game. Wigan last season is 1. He did it in Europe earlier this season too.
I really did hope that nearer the time didnt mean 20 minutes nearer the time Always getting my hopes up...
Well 10/110 games = 1/11 games. That equates to just over 3 goals a season, not every single goal he's scored for United will have been a crucial one. So to use the idea "he scores crucial goals for United" is a little desparate.
Very similar record to Patrick Vieira who scored 29 goals in 279 games across 9 seasons. Would you look at that just over 3 goals a season. Must have been a shit centre mid then.
No, read what I'm posting FFS. Vieira offered so much elsewhere that if he'd scored 0 goals he'd have still been 100x the midfielder Carrick is. The fact is I said Carrick is one dimensional, to which you said "he scores some very important goals and crops up at the right time". He does it 3 times a season FFS, hardly anything to get excited about. So much so it's hardly worth mentioning, like people don't mention goal scoring as a strong aspect of Vieira's game. Comprehend?
Tbph Vieira wasn't that much > Carrick elsewhere. More influential and slightly better defensively, but not as good a passer. Carrick is underrated as a defender because he doesnt make many tackles, his ability defensively comes from his positional awareness. He's always mopping up at the back. There's a reason Fergie chose him to play CB when we needed it.
Vieira was so much better than Carrick will ever be it's not funny. Yes but that only works when he's playing alongside somebody that can tackle. If Carrick is playing for England it's going to be alongside somebody who's much more attacking minded and if Carrick isn't going to tackle it's going to leave us exposed through the middle. In all honesty you can't be that special defesnively if you can't tackle. It's a pretty big part of being a defensive player. For all you want to talk him up, Carrick's passing game isn't that great. Sure he can pass the ball 20 yards but so can anoy centre midfielder worth his salt. He's not that great a distributor of the ball and often in big matches he disappears. He's so ****ing ovverrated IMO and before anybody says I know it's not just my opinion.
lol @ saying Carricks over rated by everyone yet still saying Walcott is the best RM in the country. What a **** tard
Where did I say Walcott is the best RM in the country? I think I said I'd start Lennon ahead of him. Also the whole time, I've been arguing that Capello would pick Walcott in his squad and not SWP. I gave a whole host of reasons, one of which nobody has even been able to begin to argue is that Walcott was first choice before he got injured. So it's pretty darn likely he'll be picked again. Carrick's a meh player, not particularly great at anything.
This was what I said and you didnt come back to that tbh and to be honest, every other time someones proved you wrong youve just tried to laugh it off and repeat what you said before. Thats not how to put forward a view point
My football knowledge hasnt been what it was since Charlton went down but Jonjo Shelvey's a definate to be on the plane tbh. Lolling at this thread though btw
Well of course I'm going to keep reiterating it if it's correct. You're hardly an expert on how to put forward a coherent arguement are you Veri?