Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by The Boy Brumby, Feb 2, 2013.
If that second French try hadn't been given.
If only, if only.
What a day of rugby.
What a game
Bad luck puppies
221 points scored today. Unbelievable.
Went to Albion so was a couple.hours behind. Just seen it. Fuck. Such a good day - gutting at the end but what a day
On the bright side, how we do in the WC isn't really going to be affected by whether we beat France by 20 points or 27 points today...
Yeah, we're in pretty decent shape really. Would like to see a squad that looks something like this I think.
Hartley (T. Youngs, Webber)
Cole (Mako V.)
Morgan (Billy V)
Looks like our biggest question is who plays at 12 really. Other than that I don't think there's any position to be worried about.
We have to experiment with Manu and Joseph in some combination in the centres (I'd suggest defensively Manu at 12, attacking wise switch it up to suit). If not I think we drop Watson and play Joseph on the wing
GOOD team of the tournament
1. Cian Healy
Doesn't take long to get back to his mongrel self at the breakdown.
2. Scott Baldwin
Should be more than enough to end the inexplicable reputation of Hibbard as the best Wales have, or even necessary in any way.
3. Dan Cole
4. Josh Furno
Constantly either at the heart of Italian set piece dominance or standing blameless while those around him fail to tackle.
5. Paul O'Connell
Does this year after year after fucking year
6. Peter O'Mahoney
When the Norse wrote epic tales of what they called the trickster god, they didn't mention he was a gobby Irish back rower
7. Chris Robshaw
Much maligned by idiots, this man consistently turned over good teams and averaged 16 tackles a game. Averaged!
8. Billy Vunipola
Billy run. Billy smash. Billy eat 15 jacket potatoes. Billy rest.
9. Conor Murray
Now giving flawless performances week in week out
10. George Ford
Some are suggesting this tournament means he should be starting in the World Cup. I'd suggest that was already happening, and this tournament means he should be beatified.
11. George North
North hasn't done anything a while. North isn't playing at his best. Maybe Wales won't be able to score many today. Maybe they should bring back Cuthbert. Maybe he shouldn't have an automatic place in any XV you can think of LOLNOPE
12. Robbie Henshaw
More than just a lump of midfield mass, Henshaw actually goes on the field with the intention of seeking out as much work as possible, in attack or defence. This is what a modern big man looks like, Mathieu.
13. Jonathan Joseph
There is a school of thought in the rugby press that modern tries never come from individual brilliance, that they always are the product of the best laid plans executed perfectly to prey on the inherent weaknesses in what would otherwise be a faultless defensive operation. Joseph hasn't heard this as he's too busy casually triple-jumping over defenders.
14. Anthony Watson
I don't know how those of you who become upset by the passage of time are dealing with this, but there is now a player who looks completely at home in internationals in more than one position who was born in 1994. I'll just leave that fact there.
15. Leigh Halfpenny
SHIT team of the tournament
1. Gethin Jenkins
Roughly as intimidating in the scrum as a sheet of cardboard with his face from 2011 drawn on it.
2. Dylan Hartley
Those who say he is the best lineout thrower England have by far will probably have missed his lineout being generally pants all tournament as that's a 'fact' born entirely out of confirmation bias. They probably will have noticed his carrying leading to two penalties versus Wales and then being entirely nonexistent for the rest of the tournament.
3. Geoff Cross
A lot has been made over how fun it is to talk about Cross' beard, its potential applications in surface cleaning, what kinds of birds may nest in it, and so on. It's less important but also worth noting that his six nations has been shite.
4. Pascal Pape
Shit last year, dirty shit this yer.
5. Marco Bortolami
Still inexplicably played.
6. James Haskell
Yes this is harsh. No, he isn't an international player. Brainless.
7. Samuela Vunisa
Do you remember who Vunisa played for? In a tournament full of good sevens Italy fielded three, all of them crap.
8. Johnnie Beattie
With David Denton out, why not try this card-attracting space occupier? Order now and get this lovely wooden spoon absolutely free
9. Rory Kockott
This six nations was full of top scrum half performances. Kockott is mainly here for his very, very clear 'not being as good as Morgan Parra' problem. That and Butler trying to make his name sound French.
10. Kelly Haimona
I love a good chicken salad wrap. Tasy, filling and good for me. I would not ask one to be an international fly half. It is clearly not suited for that task. It is for a different task.
11. Dougie Fife
12. Luther Burrell
Did a lot of hard work to make sure Ford skipped him out and passed straight to the players outside him. Tried to make up for it by giving away penalties.
13. Jared Payne
'Boss, I'm concerned that without Brian our team's just a kicking 3-point generator'
'Let's get that New Zealander who plays for Ulster in there. Be the playmaker of the new backline'
'Good idea boss'
'Then never pass him the ball'
14. Tommy Bowe
'Oh, and before you go, tell Tommy that I know about that note he stuck to my back last week. He's only to clear out rucks for the next month.'
15. Scott Spedding
I don't understand the point of Scott Spedding.
Dylan Hartley still is our best option in the lineout. And yes he did have a shit tournament - but noone else can fucking throw either
Howe's write ups are golden.
I will now forever be picturing a chicken wrap when Haimona plays.
I'm sure when I'm pissing my last in some old folks' home and dementia has laid waste to whatever faculties I have I'll be regaling all and sundry with the story of how Italy played a chicken wrap at stand off in 2015.
"Of course they did, Mr Brumby. Do you want your nappy changed again?"
"It had a rats' tail"
It's easy to say as an England supporter, but winning or losing the 6N based entirely on how badly you stuffed Scotland leaves a bad taste, doesn't it?
I'd quite like to see the first tiebreaker be the points difference gained when only counting matches between the tied teams. Means the key matches are the outset really are the key matches at the end, and you wouldn't lose the tile to a team you beat if there's two at the top.
That's how it works in the Champions League in football. Head to Head decides who places where in the group phases on a points tie. On the other hand we would never have had a day as exciting as yesterday
Yeah fair point
We had 8 lineouts lost out of a total of 60 over the course of the tournament, which I think is tied for Wales with fewest lineouts lost (can't be bothered to go through and work out all the percentages).
It might not have fired in quite the same way it has done before, and I suspect that's partly to do with not having Lawes/Parling/Launchbury available for a lot of the games, but it's still been pretty solid.
I think Tom Youngs is a better player in the loose, and less of a twat, but he ruins our lineout when he comes on. He had our only line lost on our own ball yesterday (would have had two if France didn't have too many in one of the lineouts) and had one quick lineout to the first man and then the rest were to the front. Clearly we don't trust him to throw long.
Not to mention Wood
Youngs works in the line out if you have Parling and Croft. I think our first choice locks are Launch and Lawes so need someone who can hit them and contribute in the loose. Wonder if Hartley to get the stupids out of his game has lost the edge in the loose?
Who else do we have? Webber struggling at Bath, I would seriously consider giving George from Sarries a look!
Cowan-Dickie is one to look at after the World Cup. But his lineout is probably the worst of the 4
This was a pretty dreadful tournament for wingers really.
Would be better off playing Halfpenny, Hogg and Brown as your back three.
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