If origin had never existed...

Discussion in 'The Cesspit: Rugby League Discussion' started by Freddy, Jul 24, 2013.

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  1. Freddy MJ Johns

    ...and the first game was approaching us, what would your team be? Try to completely wipe past representative (including test) games from your mind.
     
    Freddy, Jul 24, 2013
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  2. Andato BJT Manera

    Qld Team would look somewhat the same. Tate would possibly miss out and Thaiday too. Qld would go four props so I reckon Hannant would be starting. Myles would probably be benched and McGuire may get a look-in. Good question ill have to give it more thought though.
     
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    Andato, Jul 24, 2013
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  3. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Can I pick Jamie Lyon?
     
    Cribbage, Jul 24, 2013
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  4. Harry Sack SB Slippy

    I think so. If Origin never existed he would never have spat the dummy.
     
    Harry Sack, Jul 24, 2013
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  5. Freddy MJ Johns

    Yeah.
     
    Freddy, Jul 24, 2013
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  6. Jazz NC Smith

    :laughing: if Origin hadn't existed then Pearce should be in the team.
     
    Jazz, Jul 24, 2013
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  7. Andato BJT Manera

    :thumbup:
     
    Andato, Jul 24, 2013
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  8. Jazz NC Smith

    NSW could actually have an abortion of a team if previous Origin experiences were ignored.

    You'd struggle to put a case for ommiting Hoffman or Pearce. You'd also have a strong case for playing Hayne on the wing and Gidley wouldn't be a reasonable option as a bench hooker.
     
    Jazz, Jul 24, 2013
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  9. Freddy MJ Johns

    1. Brett Stewart
    2. James McManus
    3. Jamie Lyon
    4. Michael Jennings
    5. Brett Morris
    6. Todd Carney
    7. Mitchell Pearce
    8. Aaron Woods
    9. Robbie Farah
    10. Trent Merrin
    11. Luke Lewis
    12. Boyd Cordner
    13. Paul Gallen

    14. Kurt Gidley
    15. Andrew Fifita
    16. James Tamou
    17. Anthony Watmough
     
    Freddy, Jul 24, 2013
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  10. Jazz NC Smith

    oh wait, that is exactly what the team was looking like this year before Stewart got injured.
     
    Jazz, Jul 24, 2013
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  11. Alec AD Funkotron

    Inglis at fullback for NSW.
     
    Alec, Jul 24, 2013
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  12. Freddy MJ Johns

    Haynes hasn't played wing in ages for parramatta? How does Gids not make a case?
     
    Freddy, Jul 24, 2013
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  13. SM MD Dorn

    1. Hayne
    2. Borris
    3. Lyon
    4. Idris
    5. Merrit
    6. Carney
    7. Reynolds
    8. Woods
    9. Farah
    10. Tamou
    11. Bird
    12. Hoffman
    13. Gallen

    14. Gidley
    15. Fifita
    16. Watmough
    17. Sutton

    1. Inglis
    2. Tate
    3. Chambers
    4. Hodges
    5. Yow Yeh
    6. Thurston
    7. Cronk
    8. Scott
    9. Smith
    10. Shillington
    11. Thaiday
    12. Te'o
    13. Parker

    14. Taylor
    15. Hannant
    16. Lillyman
    17. DCE/Srama


    Meh
     
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    SM, Jul 24, 2013
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  14. Jazz NC Smith

    For Hayne, I don't think you need to have played on the wing recently to go back there. If you ignore his Origin performances and just look back to his play at the beginning of his career then Hayne still easily makes the team ahead of wingers like McManus, Ferguson or Merritt imo.

    As for Gidley, the only reason he gets hyped as a good bench hooker is because he has proven that by his play for NSW. He has never played that role for Newcastle and over the course of his entire career he has barely played any dummy half, other than occasional spurts here and there. I'm sure some would claim otherwise but I don't think you can make a good argument for Gidley's inclusion that doesn't start and end with his play for NSW in 2010 and 2011.
     
    Jazz, Jul 24, 2013
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  15. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Yeah indeed but what he offers at fullback would still trump that for me. He'd be both first fullback picked and first winger picked and I'd pick him at fullback.

    I'd definitely pick Pearce and the likes of Hoffman and Creagh would be serious options for the side. Bird would probably be benched with one of them starting.
     
    Cribbage, Jul 24, 2013
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  16. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Wut? :laugh:
     
    Cribbage, Jul 24, 2013
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  17. Freddy MJ Johns

    Yeah lol, I just ignored that. Lol.
     
    Freddy, Jul 24, 2013
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  18. SM MD Dorn

    Haha, meant Sutton
     
    SM, Jul 24, 2013
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  19. Julian BJ Taylor

    Hayne
    Stewart
    lyon
    Jennings
    ferguson
    carney
    Mullen/campese
    tolman
    Farah
    Merrin
    Mateo
    Lewis
    Fensom

    bird
    fifita
    learoyd lahrs/specialist impact prop
    watmough
    Kelly



    you wouldn't know the importance of a bench dummy half so you wouldn't consider someone like Kurt gidley. I would probably consider McManus with Hayne or Stewart on the bench. gallen would be meh. a good stats nrl player who I hated and wouldn't have ever played prop.
     
    Julian, Jul 24, 2013
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  20. Pretzel P Retzel

    Yow Yeh on the wing is another head scratcher. Surely QLD have a better winger than a guy who started running again a month ago?
     
    Pretzel, Jul 24, 2013
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