Hodgson praises the quality of the A-League

Discussion in 'Association Football Discussion' started by Hybrid, Jul 14, 2009.

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  1. Hybrid A Kolar

    The Canberra United team in the W-League has been an outstanding success. You have no idea buddy.
     
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    Hybrid, Jul 14, 2009
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  2. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    I love that we have a more succesful womens league then the new zealand semi-pro leauge, perhaps why new zealand suck so hard at football
     
    stupersteve03, Jul 14, 2009
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  3. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    They have an AFL stadium that is used 4 times a year.
     
    MatthewJay, Jul 14, 2009
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  4. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    AFL ovals are really crap for football, and im not sure if they will be able to keep up with the tigers in the second half of the season
     
    stupersteve03, Jul 14, 2009
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  5. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Should be alright. They'd just have to work their homes games around the Tigers.
     
    MatthewJay, Jul 14, 2009
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  6. Frizzed WC Welker

    Indeed ovals are crap, but at least it's a start.
     
    Frizzed, Jul 14, 2009
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  7. stupersteve03 SJ Cambridge

    It certainly makes more sence then NQ IMO (even though the fury are now officially my favorite team) as they are much closer to melbourne which is the stronghold of football in australia
     
    stupersteve03, Jul 14, 2009
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  8. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Erm. New Zealand has a very healthy balance of government debt. I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Aussie banking institutions own the majority of the New Zealand banking system, so your standard Kiwi owes money to the Aussie banks - this is true; but not sure what that has to do with sovereignty

    Support for the Phoenix (per capita) was actually very high; especially when the A-League kicked off. I think in its first season, it wasn't mid-table in per capita support. Where the Phoenix have failed (and other A-League franchises have succeeded, often to the detriment of the game itself) is by not making their team 'entertaining' enough. Think of Tottenham Hotspur under Ossie Ardiles; they were pretty poor, but they played flowing, attacking football and as a result interest remained high despite the results being poor.

    The Phoenix (given the population base of Wellington) have done considerably better than the Knights did - but then at least the Phoenix have played some local players (and some young Aussies, as it happens) rather than the shower of English League 1 & 2 has-beens that the Knights played.

    A-League teams have invested their marquee players in attacking flair and to a team, the defense has been atrocious.

    I used to enjoy football before it became a contest as to who could cheat the referee most - diving, feigning injury (Denilson? for Brazil against Turkey in the last World Cup being a prime example) wasn't part of the British game (the only soccer I watched) before the Premier League and the free flow of European footballers. I am fed up of prima-donnas, overpaid and undersexed. Its not the game I grew up watching.

    And you've completely misunderstood my point regarding Canberra. How much do you think they'd get in additional TV revenue for "selling" games to the ACT? Selling coverage to an additional country, however with a different TV network. With the Phoenix in the league, Sky NZ will pay a darn sight more than a league without a Kiwi team.

    To be fair, I suspect this is the only reason there's a Kiwi team in the A-League.
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jul 14, 2009
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  9. Hybrid A Kolar

    I suppose you are right with regards to you point about television revenue. I don't really know the specifics of the system of TV networks and whatnot in New Zealand, but I can't really see any other reason for a New Zealand team to be part of what is supposed to be an Australian professional football league.

    I guess I'm just bitter that Wellington got into the A-League over my area - Western Sydney - a few years back.

    Also, you do know that not all footballers try to dive and cheat the referee... you should enjoy the beautiful game for what it is and you'll learn to ignore the clowning around because, if truth be told, it doesn't have that great an impact on the sport. People, specifically soccer bashers, will ALWAYS make it out to be worse than what it actually is...
     
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    Hybrid, Jul 14, 2009
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  10. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Haha. I suspect I've watched more games of football over the years than you have and it's ridiculous what they get away with these days, but hey, the turnstiles keep ticking and the players keep earning.

    By the time I left the UK last time, I preferred to watch the local League 1 team than the Premier League side. Just more my cup of tea, as the locals would say.

    One thing I do still rate though is the FA Cup. I really enjoy those overpaid Premier League players have to slum it at the far outposts of English soccer - Yeovil, Colchester, Lincoln, Carlisle. Even better if they have to play a non-league side.
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jul 14, 2009
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  11. Flack SA Flack

    So how long has Hodgson been a suck up/insane?
     
    Flack, Jul 14, 2009
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  12. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Since he managed Switzerland.
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jul 14, 2009
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  13. Prince SHOES DP Smith

    That's being extremely kind to the A-League.
     
    Prince SHOES, Jul 14, 2009
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  14. FreezerBurn F Burn

    melbourne already has a second team granted an operations license and the FFA is pushing to have a West Sydney Bogans FC in the same year as there's about 3 consortium's bidding for it

    Canberra/South Coast is a far more attractive market then NZ, they have one of the most competitive district competition and consistantly have high crowds to local games and would embrace a national team. Tassie would be a lot like Central Coast and would jump on the first team to come to their region first whether it be A-League or AFL
     
    FreezerBurn, Jul 15, 2009
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  15. Prince SHOES DP Smith

    I'd buy a season ticket straight away if Wollongong got a side.
     
    Prince SHOES, Jul 15, 2009
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  16. Guest MR Hayes


    You were going well until you got here.

    For a start Turkey were not in the last World Cup. You are refering to the 2002 World Cup and it was Rivaldo who dived against Turkey after the ball struk his thigh which he was disciplined for. You think footballers dive do you. I can point out divers in any contact sport guarrantee you people just gloss over it in sports like League and Union because they are percieved as being tougher. Football is not the same as it was 5 10 or 15 years ago. It has changed greatly with more emphasis being put on the silky smooth skills of players now days and getting rid of hatchet players (if someone would just get rid of Terry) and players like Ronaldinho, Kaka, Ronaldo and Nedved who would have had vastly shorter careers a few years back have been able to play for longer and try more tricks. Yes diving is an unfortunate side to this but give it 5 years diving will become obselete in the sport.
     
    Guest, Jul 19, 2009
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  17. Julian BJ Taylor

    Brett or Michael?
     
    Julian, Jul 19, 2009
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  18. Incey BC Jacobs

    And they went to Perth. Imagine if they went to a quality club...
     
    Incey, Jul 22, 2009
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