A while ago, Gallen got the ref to do a second toss just by having a whinge about how it handed. The other captain (can't remember who it was) protested, but the referee said "nah if he's going to complain we'll do it again". I laughed for ages because Gallen had quite literally argued the toss. It was golden point too, so Cronulla have form on this. End of the day this makes me think a bit less of Graham because it was outside the bounds of the sort of gamesmanship you should try out IMO, but I think cunts talking about fining the club etc are going way too far.
He was straight up hustled, thanks for coming.. Some of you blokes have clearly lost a bit of money through Nigerian scames and still holding out for the money, or that mail imported bride you paid for 6 years ago and are still holding out for her to turn up. Grow up the lot of yas.
Well there's one way to ensure they keep doing pathetic shit like this... Nah it's reasonable. This cheating is the difference between getting the first scoring chance, it's the difference between getting three sets or two sets, and it's the difference between running with the wind or against it. Clubs get fined for not submitting their team list an hour before a match. If said cheating is of such little importance, okay, seeing how they cannot be trusted not to cheat (as you said this has happened on more than one occasion), then don't allow them to participate in the coin toss any more. You can't really imply yeah it's cheating but we're not going to reprimand them for it.
Let's hope the 50 year old virgins lose the GF in the first set of GP from a 45m Cronk field goal after Smith cheats at the coin toss. You know, just to see if Cronulla fans still think it's a non-issue then.
Perhaps I should start playing Pokemon Go like you. You can jest, and you can flip flop all you like on this point, but we both know if the scenario I just put actually happened and cost Cronulla their first premiership, you'd be first in line to piss and moan about it.
Pokemon Go would be good for you. Get you using your legs, get you reacquainted with the sun and the outside world. In this supposed tragedy that you keep going on about, under the same logic wouldn't it be a blessing in disguise if it went to the second half of golden point?
It's bad enough that you misrepresent your own opinion, no need to do the same to mine. This is the second time you've used this weird and suggestive logic. (The first being a bizarre comment that Cronulla's D was too good anyway, as if that's remotely relevant). Wtf are you even implying here about blessing in disguise; that it's okay or slightly less of an indiscretion because the opposition gets the advantage for the second period after your team was too inept to convert the one they cheated to obtain for the first period? I mean yeah okay that's a blessing in disguise.........a blessing which is contingent on your opposition not fucking scoring first and therefore winning before you get your 'advantage'. I mean for god's sake, are you even being serious here? What happens during the course of golden point is completely irrelevant to Graham's action. The Titans could win, the Sharks could win, no one could win and none of these outcomes would have any bearing on how we assess the act of cheating in a fucking coin toss. I'm only going on about it because parochial Sharks fans like you either keep saying it's gamesmanship and therefore all good (which is horseshit), or say that it's pissweak but then make untenable arguments to minimalise it as you have been doing all throughout this thread. But nah it's all good. I hope Cronulla play Melbourne in the GF. I hope it goes to golden point. And I hope Smith cheats to receive the ball, running with a 20 knot wind behind them and Cronk kicks a 50m field goal. I hope all this happens just so we get to see you come on here and make the same ridiculous arguments you've been making in Cronulla's favour.
The fact that we're assessing this cheating on a coin toss in the first place. You're going on about it because you are king of the sooks. You love a controversy and something to whinge about so you'll happily turn molehills into mountains. There is no need to minimalise it because it's so minimal in terms of an actual issue that it does it itself. Furthering the point that the advantage is shifted at half-time, these 'advantages' are actually really over after the first set of six the opposition have in possession. They more than likely miss their field goal if they don't win off the first set and you are again more than likely to start from the 20m with a 7 tackle set and that is vastly superior to recieving the kick off. Last post I'll make on this is so trivial and you're just incredibly butthurt so I will finish with ha ha you're mad, I win ha ha
Sort of begs the question then why you insist on doing so. That's true but it's a contingency. You could get a 20m restart or you could get what the Titans got after Maloney opted to kick into a corner and hemmed them inside their own 30. What's not a contingency, however, is scoring first through possession of the ball. That's an absolute. You can't win without the ball. That's why virtually every golden point you see the winner of the toss receive first. Nobody is picking the chance to be first 20m restart recipient over first ball possession recipient. That along with the realisation that on average you'll get one extra set if the full 5 minutes is played out. And I don't know why you say "furthering the point that the advantage is shifted at half time." What point exactly were you even advancing? The point is, first blood wins. This is not traditional overtime. It's sudden death, first to the punch. It is not an equitable situation simply because both teams have a turn at kicking off and receiving, and running in each direction. All other variables being equal, the advantage is always with the team that receives first. But yes I'm wearied of this argument too. The only real question is proportion. A coin toss in RL is obviously not like winning the toss in cricket and batting first on a road. But it's not incidental to the point of a non-issue either, imo. Surely there has to be some punishment for overtly trying to cheat prior to the commencement of play.
