Adam Goodes

I think he considers himself a vic but prefers not to say as he's aligned with both. Early in his career he was from SA; he kinda switched for some reason.

He's the image of AFL in NSW though, for all purposes he's a NSWman.

 

I'm aware - although it's like 55% vic, 45% sa. I'll still claim him proudly. I'm more angling at the whole 'he's the face of NSW footy' vibe though, a bit like Voss would be a QLDer in some senses despite being a vic.

Nah, Goodes is actually good and performs. I don't understand the hate from Mousey's troupe. A lot of claims about him made from these blokes but I don't hear them being explained.

Cooney in his prime was something else. Just his explosive ability and footskills were incredible to watch 4-5 years ago.

 

Ah I see.

I always thought Hayne was awesome often but prone to absolute shockers and overrated by the media due to his occasional awesomeness and underrated by the public due to his odd shocker.

Lack of league knowledge ftl.

 

I can't argue with a lot of that.

Even with all of that said, it still has him as a top 5-6 player of the millenium IMO.

As a core player being, say, top 10 in a 15 year period + his off field work and the unique element he brings to the game which, honestly, should boost him IMO - he's worth the praise I'm giving him. I'm not saying he's a GOAT, I'm saying he's one of the best of the modern era, and a unique player who deserves recognition for a variety of factors.

Don't get me wrong - I recognise that the consistent performance across his career bar two seasons is great but not elite, but there's so much more to it than that.

 

Yeah depends if you're assessing the 2000-2013 era where the players to have played 10 seasons within it are advantaged or just the best performance on average within the era which'd bring in Roo/Bucks etc. or even just the best player to have played in it.

There are a lot of good players in that group but I reckon you can strike out Hayes, Dal Santo, Mitchell, West and Enright straight away. Even Bartel, Kerr, Black, Swan (could even be in the Hayes group), McLeod and Cousins might be at risk if you had to cull a few more.

Heaps of guns there so culling any of them causes a bit of controversy.

 

That's a little too far. Some of the players Mousey listed were just incredible. For key forwards like pav, brown, tredders and riewoldt to dominate the game in the modern era which at different times was obsessed with flooding, forward press, zone defence and even double teaming was incredible IMO. We're not going to see the goal counts of the 80/90s again, and I bet those fellas from then would struggle now.

Re Kerr - I guess so. 85% of his career now has been just normal for a midfielder. Between injuries where he was never the same afterwards and his lack of tag shaking ability he never quite had the consistently and longevity at the elite level. Those seasons in the premiership era where he was at peak, wow. Was an incredible player at his peak and incredibly underrated on that, just couldn't keep it up. Four seasons shouldn't get you in the elite category though and rightly so.