Melbourne Football Club

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  1. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Eade is an underachiever who would get the sack, Choco was down to coach GWS because it was like Port, where it was fresh and he could mould the team.

    Melbourne is a stinking decaying corpse, worse than either of those two, Why would he want to go near it with what happened with his last days at Port & something better will come up.

    Gary Ayers hasn't been a senior AFL coach since 2004. If he wanted to be one, He wouldn't be waiting 9 years and coaching VFL, to stick his hand up for Melbourne.

    None of them are going to be the next coach of Melbourne.
     
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    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  2. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Ayres was interviewed earlier this year and started he still wanted to coach AFL again. He's been coaching in the VFL for ages.

    Claiming Eade would "get the sack" before he has the job is ludicrous. And Choco could easily de-list 10 players and then give himself a blank canvas of sorts.

    FB: Garland Frawley Terlich
    HB: - McDonald Grimes
    C: - Jones Viney
    HF: Howe Dawes Watts
    FF: - Clark Hogan
    R: Jamar Trengrove Sylvia
    INT: Toumpas #2 pick Magner -

    It's not a terrible base considering you'd have blokes like Jones, Barry, Gawn, Tapscott, Evans etc on the list

    Then if you could turn a couple Pedersen, Gillies, Blease, Strauss, Sellar or McKenzie into regular AFL standard players you'd be looking decent.
     
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    MatthewJay, Jun 4, 2013
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  3. Blake BE Quilty

    Jesse Hogan next year as well.
     
    Blake, Jun 4, 2013
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  4. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Not sur how I forgot about him, although that's slightly tall if Watts and Howe stay up there permanently (which I doubt they will).

    Just need to make sure they hang onto players. They can't afford to lose Frawley, Watts and Sylvia possibly for the right price.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 4, 2013
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  5. Scottie NG Scott

    Ayres would take any chance he'd get to coach in the AFL again, tbh. Don't think they'd ever go for him, though.

    Which is a shame, because gee I miss that haircut.
     
    Scottie, Jun 4, 2013
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  6. Scottie NG Scott

    And to dismiss Eade as an underachiever is paying him a disservice. I'm not sure he's what Melbourne needs considering he's not great at building lists (he's better at working with what's already there), but he's coached successful teams. Just because he's never won a flag does not make him an underachiever.

    In any event, Melbourne winning a flag at this stage is so far away that surely any improvement has to be seen as a good thing.
     
    Scottie, Jun 4, 2013
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  7. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Where does it say Ayers was interviewed and said he was interested in coaching Melbourne?

    Suggesting Eade is interested in coaching and would be good for Melbourne is ludicrous. He knocked back Port Adelaide last year to stay at Collingwood, why would he choose Melbourne. Makes sense.

    He's 2nd on a list of most games coached without winning a premiership. That's what Melbourne needs, the 2nd highest underachieving coach of all time.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  8. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Alot of chances to coach AFL since 2004.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  9. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    It does.
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  10. Skippos SM Morgan

    Eade is stern, a good thinker and still up with the current afl game but he's also a squib. Some teams would go fine with a squib, Melbourne - nope. They need their coach to be both a leader and a tactician. Sanderson/Hinkley/Clarkson/Both Scotts/Hardwick are the kind of blokes they should be looking at. Choco as well, I guess. Not saying they're the best coaches but they're the stern, dominant, alpha leaders type of things; they're people players can follow and take lead from. Not all coaches work like that and Melbourne need that. It's not just discipline they need.

    tl;dr intangibles.
     
    Skippos, Jun 4, 2013
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  11. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Ayres said he was still interested in coaching an AFL side. He wasn't exactly going to list which sides he was interested in.

    Melbourne is a Victorian based club, maybe Eade didn't want to relocate his family? Melbourne are so far away from a Premiership that it's his lack of Premierships isn't even relevant. He's a good coach, that's why the Bulldogs played in 3 or 4 straight preliminary finals.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 4, 2013
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  12. El Nino J Torres

    Matthew Knights was brought up a few times on radio today.
     
    El Nino, Jun 4, 2013
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  13. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Even Melbourne don't deserve that.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 4, 2013
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  14. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Where did Ayers say it.

    Maybe Eade just didn't want to coach a shit club?
     
    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  15. morgieb MC Burridge

    Or maybe Eade wanted time away from head coaching?
     
    morgieb, Jun 4, 2013
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  16. MatthewJay TA Miokovic

    Was interviewed on Open Mike iirc.


    Mick Malthouse didn't state he wanted to coach Carlton even after Ratten was sacked.
     
    MatthewJay, Jun 4, 2013
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  17. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    He's been coaching just as much at Collingwood.
     
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    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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  18. Skippos SM Morgan

    Trust me, Craig is far from a squib.
     
    Skippos, Jun 4, 2013
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  19. Scottie NG Scott

    When has he been offered a job? Just because there's been a lot of chances to coach at AFL level since 2004 doesn't mean that he's been in the reckoning for all of them.

    The fact is that no club has been willing to take a shot on Ayres since 2004, and probably rightly so until he did a good job with an unaligned VFL club. If Melbourne offered him the job, I'd wager he'd not think twice about it.

    No, it doesn't.

    This is just another example of this bullshit prevailing thought that every coach who doesn't win a flag is a bad coach. It is simply not the case. While Eade was coaching, every year only one club out of sixteen could win the flag. It is far too simplistic to say that each year fifteen coaches underachieve because they don't win the flag.

    He coached one team to a Grand Final, and another to three straight preliminary finals. In which one of those seasons should a team he coached have won the flag?
     
    Scottie, Jun 4, 2013
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  20. PaulFromOz PF Oz

    Oh yeah, I'm sure Terry Wallace, Denis Pagan, Robert Walls, David Parkin, Dean Laidley would all jump at the chance and not think twice about it either. Hell, They should ring up Tommy Hafey too, pretty sure he'd be keen aswell.




    In this perfect world, Melbourne wouldn't even be looking for a coach, because nooooooooooobody would get sacked.


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    PaulFromOz, Jun 4, 2013
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