*Official* All Blacks Thread

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  1. Fiery GR Smith

    AWTA. Dunno how they could possibly leave him out.
     
    Fiery, Aug 30, 2015
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  2. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Nah. You'd expect them to each get a turn on the bench during pool play and maybe even just Vito on the bench to give one a full rest during the lesser teams. It's not like these players are playing with little rest days. Each game is like 7 days apart.
     
    Rego, Aug 30, 2015
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  3. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Ahh didn't know. Still injuries happen etc. Would rather we had taken Dominic Bird over as well and only two half backs. Kerr Barlow is untested anyway.
     
    Hurricane, Aug 30, 2015
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  4. Starris ER Starris

    Might be a poor attempt to send a message to players of his age thinking of taking overseas contracts.
     
    Starris, Aug 30, 2015
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  5. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Are they doing the same thing this weekend where all the big teams play at the weekend and then the smaller teams play during the week?

    Terrible idea because then the smaller teams end up playing the big teams with about three days rest.
     
    Weeman27bob, Aug 30, 2015
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  6. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    I vaguely recall reading that they had done away with that imbalance and now big teams might be expected to have short turnarounds too. Can't remember if it was for this World Cup or the next one though.
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Aug 30, 2015
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  7. Jabba HJ Bots

    Vito isn't the reserve lock, Read and Kaino are
     
    Jabba, Aug 30, 2015
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  8. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Each team has a shorter turnaround once I recall, the rest is 7 days-ish apart

    ABs for example:

    Sun 20th Sept vs Arg
    Thurs 24th Sept vs Nam
    Fri 2nd Oct vs Geo
    Fri 9th Oct vs Ton

    So it's not too bad.
     
    Rego, Aug 30, 2015
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  9. Rego RS Hutchinson

    All capable of covering lock. Vito and Kaino the better options imo.
     
    Rego, Aug 30, 2015
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  10. Fiery GR Smith

    But why even play him in those 3 Rugby Championship games? He was the best player on the paddock in SA by a country mile. Would have been one of my first picks tbf.
     
    Fiery, Aug 30, 2015
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  11. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Because he could still be called upon in case of injury.....the same applies with Lima. He was never going. He played one game for us - they had no intention of him going unless he was covering an injury. He would have played more if they seriously were considering him. Getting a player like him in the environment was essential in case he's needed.
     
    Rego, Aug 30, 2015
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  12. Notsure SM Green

    But you could say the same thing about Naholo or NMS. Piutau definitely outperformed Naholo for the All Blacks this season and maybe Milner-Skudder as well. You guys definitely should have taken Piutau - he gives you cover on both wings, at fullback and maybe even centre for a pool game.
     
    Notsure, Aug 30, 2015
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  13. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Naholo would have played more if it wasn't for his injury you'd have to think. Nehe only got to play the last 2 games due to injury as well so same applies. Piutau playing against Samoa was a given (a lot of players unavailable). I would say that both those players being unavailable for a few of the games, Piutau played when it would have probably been one of the former two.

    I'm actually trying to rationalise what Hansen has done because I agree I would have picked Piutau over the still injured Naholo as well. If Naholo had remained fit throughout maybe not. If he gets straight back to the form he's in I have no problems at all.

    I don't think Piutau's contract debacle helped his case.
     
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    Rego, Aug 30, 2015
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  14. Howe JHF Howe

    Looks like an experienced set of outside backs compared to what they could have brought. Neither the Jane or Dagg omission surprises me much but I'd have thought they'd want one.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2015
    Howe, Aug 31, 2015
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  15. Starris ER Starris

    Jane has been injured and is relatively unproven as I think he has only played ITM Cup at best.

    Dagg was a bit more of a surprise for me.
     
    Starris, Aug 31, 2015
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  16. Fiery GR Smith


    Don't you mean inexperienced?
     
    Fiery, Aug 31, 2015
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  17. Starris ER Starris

    Indeed...

    I like the relative unknowns from oppositions point of view for both Naholo and NMS... might make them harder to stop.
     
    Starris, Aug 31, 2015
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  18. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I made a thread for these moments on CW - based on people saying the opposite of what they mean.
     
    Hurricane, Aug 31, 2015
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  19. Squeaks ZW Poole

    With all the line-up discussion going on in the other thread between [MENTION=2357]Rego[/MENTION] and I thought we could do a pick your line-up prediciton for each All Black pool game. Maybe [MENTION=2932]Hurricane[/MENTION] and [MENTION=168]Fiery[/MENTION] can join in too.

    My pick for Argentina:

    1. Woodcock
    2. Coles
    3. Franks (Owen)
    4. Retallick
    5. Whitelock
    6. Kaino
    7. McCaw
    8. Read
    9. Smith
    10. Carter
    11. Savea
    12. Nonu
    13. Smith
    14. NMS
    15. Smith

    16. Mealamu
    17. Crockett
    18. Faumuina
    19. Romano
    20. Vito
    21. Perenara
    22. Barrett
    23. SBW
     
    Squeaks, Sep 17, 2015
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  20. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Sounds good. I'd assume most of our squads will be similar for this first one:

    1. Tony Woodcock
    2. Dane Coles
    3. Owen Franks
    4. Brodie Retallick
    5. Sam Whitelock
    6. Jerome Kaino
    7. Richie McCaw
    8. Kieran Read
    9. Aaron Smith
    10. Dan Carter
    11. Julian Savea
    12. Ma'a Nonu
    13. Conrad Smith
    14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
    15. Ben Smith

    16. Keven Mealamu
    17. Wyatt Crockett
    18. Ben Franks
    19. Luke Romano
    20. Liam Messam
    21. TJ Perenara
    22. Beaudan Barrett
    23. Malakai Fekitoa

    Most of my differences are personal choice but we all know Hansen loves SBW etc. (he's been so average recently) so Fekitoa over him. Ben Franks over Charlie because I think his fitness could still be questionable and probably better to test it out in the next pool games. I'd personally go with Vito over Messam too (he's been immense) but just have a feeling Hansen will go with Messam.

    Let's see how wrong I am with those differences.
     
    Rego, Sep 17, 2015
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