Round 2 - Crusaders v Cyclones at CCG

Discussion in 'Season 9 Archive' started by Cribbage, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. Skippos SM Morgan

    Drop Masters for Marto IMO
     
  2. Frizzed WC Welker

    Nah not serious.

    But he really needs to be in the team sooner or later.
     
  3. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Don't over-react to two games for Marto IMO.

    I actually would've picked Marto in Round 1 (wouldn't have picked Harding) but now that they've left him out they have to give the guys they selected a decent run. Lets face it - no matter who they leave out, he is going to destroy teams in the ALC. The fact that it happened to be Marto doesn't necessarily mean he's better than who they have playing; it's a big step up.

    It's actually surprised me that Welker of all people is the king of the "Marto must play because he played two good games in the ALC" bandwagon given he himself has been a perfect example of how ALC performances don't always transfer to the Bannerman Shield. He took 68 wickets @ 23 in the ALC last season and now he's up in the BS he's struggling. No-one should ever actually be able to 'force their way' from the ALC unless they've proven their quality in the BS in the past - emerging players should be looked at when holes form in the first XI, they shouldn't be able to poke holes themselves.
     
  4. Wilson SB Wilson

    Give the batsmen one more round tbh. No need to jump the gun.
     
  5. the_killerz S Bakkum

    Well thats all false because i only started playing halfway through season 8 and now im starting for the Crusaders.
     
  6. Skippos SM Morgan

    Completely get you, but, Marto's made two BIG hundreds. I mean, Harding's failed - as expected. He deserves a run, just unlucky he won't be getting it.
     
  7. Wilson SB Wilson

    Under different circumstances though.
     
  8. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Yeah they've all hit 50 at one point other than Short I think, and he's got consistent starts and scored a huge ton in their Care Cup game.

    I really rate Marto as a batsman (before the bandwagon started actually - CricSim Herald to confirm) but what he does in the ALC is pretty much irrelevant until one of the guys currently in the team has an extended run of failures. Given how bad Toolman was last season you could've argued it be him had he failed in this game, but he didn't.
     
  9. Wilson SB Wilson

    You've been shot down today about a million times. Learn the ****ing lesson already.
     
  10. Frizzed WC Welker

    Should come as no surprise tbh.

    Just look at all the other Marto bandwagons I start. :p
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2010
  11. Cribbage RG Cribb

    That's because there were spots available though. As I said, emerging players performing well in the ALC should be looked at when openings form in the team, but they shouldn't be able to actual create openings off their own bat. You got picked because Meister had an extended run of failures (and then left); that hasn't happened for Marto yet.
     
  12. Baxter MJ Deane

    Well that was shit.
     
  13. AVA T Delonge

    The fact they chose Harding over Marto in the first place meant that they thought Harding would do a better job. That opinion shouldn't reverse itself after 2 matches.
     
  14. Cribbage RG Cribb

    Right. So your reply to "ALC performances should only be examined when the players selected in the BS have an extended run of failures" and "You must be careful not to react to two games" is.. "I agree, but Marto's been really good in the ALC for the last two games." Wow.

    Hmm, I wouldn't say Harding has failed. He's done okay given for an absolute rookie - 62, 17, 11, 38. It's obviously not great but it's not a disastrous introduction. Most rookies fare worse in their first two games, I'd say. Marto for example scored 2, 32, 6 and 10 in his first two BS games.

    I rate Marto pretty highly as a batsman - higher than some of those playing BS cricket for the Cyclones, in fact. Obviously the selectors didn't quite agree at the start of the season though and changing it now wouldn't make too much sense. They definitely need to ride it out a little more and back their original ideas to maintain any sense of clarity and conviction.
     
  15. Skippos SM Morgan

    Or alternative just admit they were wrong, save face and attempt to do better.

    /Prepares for shut down.
     
  16. Callum CJ Laing

    3/82 is hardly pathetic tbh.
     
  17. Cribbage RG Cribb

    There is absolutely no point in posting any sort of logical argument when you post crap like that at the end of your posts, so I'm just going to call you a ****ing idiot and move on.

    You're a ****ing idiot.
     
  18. AVA T Delonge

    :laugh:

    It's so true.
     
  19. Das09 S Das

    Congrats on the win, Crusaders
     
  20. Skippos SM Morgan

    Was more of a reference to Wilson's earlier comment. But, sorry mate. I'm just like, curious.
     

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