Pick the Results Weekends Internationals

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by Hurricane, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Fiery GR Smith

    lol. He probably was MOM but he didn't win the game on his own. I think we're splitting hairs here anyway.
     
  2. Rego RS Hutchinson

    You're both right: one player doesn't "win" the game. If all 14 players were playing like 5 year olds minus one exceptional player, the liklihood of winning, next to none but one player can be the difference to winning or losing a game.

    Treat winning like a line, 14 players add so much and then that 15th player is what gets the team over that line.
     
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  3. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I am happy enough with that - how about you Fiery,
     
  4. Fiery GR Smith

    :thumbsup: Good debate
     
  5. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    LOL indeed
     
  6. Fiery GR Smith

    My all time favourite rugby player is Christian Cullen. But I never saw him win a game on his own ;)
     
  7. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Yeah I am sad I never saw him except for highlight reels. At one stage our backline was insane especially when Umaga was playing
     
  8. Fiery GR Smith



    Never saw him? He only retired 8 years ago. And was playing in NZ up until 2003. You must be a young fella then. Will never forgive John Mitchell for his treatment of him by dropping him and leaving him out of the 2003 WC squad tbh. Instead we had Leon McDonald and Ben Blair there FFS...two vastly inferior players. I could wax lyrical about Cullen all day. He was poetry in motion to watch running on a rugby field. The acceleration, speed, eye for a gap and ability to step at full speed was simply beautiful to watch.
     
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  9. Rego RS Hutchinson

    I've seen Cullen heaps but mind you he's a local :p
     
  10. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I wouldn't be surprised if I am older than you.

    (I was overseas for a while Fiery without rugby coverage)
     
  11. Fiery GR Smith

    Where were you? Middle Earth? lol

    I would be very surprised if you are older than 44. I hope you've seen plenty of Youtube clips of him in action because I have seen no one better in my lifetime.


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  12. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Well I am 42 so we can be the old men of this forum ;) But yes you have a couple of years on me.

    Yeah I missed over a decade of rugby as Canadian sports stations carry hockey 24X7 and I am not sure they had Internet TV in the early 2000s

    When i came back many of the rules were different and players were just faster.
     
  13. Fiery GR Smith

    Well it's good to know there is someone else somewhere near my age on this forum! lol. We will probably have many "debates" on rugby ;)
    Sounds like you missed some good years when we had a pretty awesome backline with Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga etc.


    But there are too many rules now, and too many to fully understand them all, even for the refs...and the scrums are a mess and always have been. I laughed when Ali Williams said in the commentary last weekend that he had been in thousands of scrums and never ever once knew why the whistle was blown during a scrum.
     
  14. Rego RS Hutchinson

    One backline player you've missed but was the opposite of good - Caleb Ralph. I'll never understand why he was in the team.
     
  15. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I am turning in lads. Good chatting with you tonight helped take my mind off the news of the day.

    Look forward to some more conversations in the future.
     
  16. Fiery GR Smith



    Yeah he won't go down as one of the great All Blacks but there's no denying he was a very good player for Canterbury. Such a prolific try-scorer. There have been much worse All Blacks before and since him tbh.


    Bernie McCahill for example...he was dross!


    Shayne "Rita" Philpott...fat and useless...only got in the team because he was Grizz Wylie's son-in-law.


    Jimmy Cowan...terrible player.
     
  17. Fiery GR Smith



    :thumbsup: Later
     
  18. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Cowan had his moments. Few try/ match saving tackles but for the most part he was a hotheaded twat. Never been a fan. Actually not sure why the Blues picked him up, with Gibson-Park and co he's not really needed, depth wise.

    Another standout shitter back in my younger days was Scott Hamilton.....a few years after Ralph but even so.

    I guess it still happens today, Saili probably the latest.
     
  19. Fiery GR Smith

    Yeah Scott Hamilton was pretty average. But I guess there will always be plenty of rubbish players which make the really good ones stand out.
     
  20. Rego RS Hutchinson

    A lot of players get sussed out too. Andre Taylor for example was getting compared to Cullen. This instance he wasn't being pre hyped, it was Super Rugby and his games were electric all season. Come the next season, he barely featured most games. Although a bit of a shame he left because he was showing signs of his 2012 electricness again this year.

    I occasionally look at his 2012 highlights for aesthetics.
     

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