Mafia 35 - Game Thread

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  1. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Alright I will elaborate further shortly just clearing something up wrt to mechanics.
     
    Number 11, Jan 7, 2020
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  2. MrPrez CM Dyer

    N11 said his report gave reason to believe you're maf.

    There were no other votes on you at the time so there wasn't a hammer risk.

    Given maf have not killed two nights in a row and one is already dead you'd hardly think now would be the time for a random fake report as it would just put heavy suss on N11 if you turned out to be inno.

    There really was no reason not to drop a vote on you at the point I did.

    Heef's cop report makes me think twice but godfather is a role more often than it's not so if N11 finds that his mechanic question doesn't change his feeling that you're maf, you're still right in the crosshairs imo.
     
    MrPrez, Jan 7, 2020
    #182

  3. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Ok so I am the dreamer and along with a few innocent reports I've had these 2 dreams.

    One of AVA, Shri and Baxter is Mafia.
    One of MrPrez, Shri and Heef is Mafia

    Now I clarified with morgie just now that any godfather would show up as mafia and not innocent in dreams for this game at least. If we trust that Heef is not pulling one over us and Baxter has been saved the last 2 nights (I'm just assuming this ftr) than we have a confirmed godfather in play. Either AVA and Prez are both mafia - with AVA as the godfather as he showed up innocent on Heef's first cop report. OR Shri is the maf in both dreams meaning he would be the godfather. I'm happy to move forward from this however the town sees fit. I'd continue to suggest a Shri lynch based on probabilities unless he can give us a real good reason not to do so.
     
    Number 11, Jan 7, 2020
    #183

  4. Arheiner SIA Yates

    Can you share the innocent reports, or are they all ones we already have?
     
    Arheiner, Jan 7, 2020
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  5. MrPrez CM Dyer

    Well that's easy enough. My vote isn't moving as Heef is pretty clearly town at this point.
     
    MrPrez, Jan 7, 2020
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  6. Number 11 CJ Downes

    I can if you guys want me to. It isn't anyone involved in those two dreams however. They aren't names that we already have down as innocent.
     
    Number 11, Jan 7, 2020
    #186

  7. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Why isn’t it Baxter and Prez that are mafia, for argument’s sake?
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jan 7, 2020
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  8. Captain SSD Dong

    I think you should reveal the innocent reports so Heef doesn't waste a night copping them.
     
    Captain, Jan 7, 2020
    #188

  9. Captain SSD Dong

    Unlynch Shri - just in case
     
    Captain, Jan 7, 2020
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  10. Arheiner SIA Yates

    The moment you've claimed there's no reason not to give all innocent reports, given that mafia already knows who town is.
     
    Arheiner, Jan 7, 2020
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  11. Number 11 CJ Downes

    A possibility to be sure, just less likely than the other two options. Keep in mind we've had 2 no kill nights in a row including a clear save on someone last night. Doctor is gone so I'm assuming there is a nurse in play. They weren't on you last night as you've produced a report, my guess is the mafia went for Marcuss again assuming you would be protected but were double bluffed by our nurse. I could be wrong but Shri was on before for a good while without posting to defend himself. Unless he gives us a good reason not to it's a good probability lynch. Even if we're wrong it will tell us that Prez is mafia and that one of AVA/Baxter is mafia. I'm 99% convinced there's a godfather in play as well so I don't trust your innocent reports on Shri/AVA much.
     
    Number 11, Jan 7, 2020
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  12. Number 11 CJ Downes

    Arheiner and Captain are innocents.
     
    Number 11, Jan 7, 2020
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  13. Shri G Shriram

    i was just reading all 10 pages for the last few minutes so i didn't post

    and think that there's a possibility that you are simply mistaken here rather than maf

    all i can do for now is say that i am town

    wouldn't be in the town's best interest to do a complete role reveal because i have something up my sleeve that would be a massive benefit to town if it comes down to it

    so i'll shut up for now and say this before this phase ends:

    it would be in the town's best interests to convince me why you are all town because frankly, i am sitting here with my dick in one hand and the thumb of my other hand up my ass because my role mostly sucks
     
    Shri, Jan 7, 2020
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  14. Captain SSD Dong

    Right then, I think it's time I reveal I'm the nurse because Shri might be town, and I wouldn't like to die with all this potentially useful information.

    I roleblocked/protected AVA on N2, which is the night nobody died, and from the writeup it sounds like there was no attempt either.

    Looking at N11's reports:

    One of AVA, Shri and Baxter is Mafia.
    One of MrPrez, Shri and Heef is Mafia

    I can only assume that AVA is mafia and appeared as innocent on Heef's report because he is the Godfather. If that is true, it makes Shri and Baxter innocent (as the dreamer only dreams of 1 mafia out of the three if I'm not mistaken). It also makes one of Heef (unlikely, but possible) and MrPrez mafia.

    This is obviously all contingent on whether my roleblock prevented the N2 kill and Heef/N11 can be believed.

    I also protected Howe last night and given the N3 writeup, I think that saved him.

    Which means -

    1. Captain - Town, Nurse
    2. Howe - Town, ?
    3. Baxter - Town, Watcher
    4. Shri - Town (maybe 3P even?), ?
    5. AVA - Mafia, Godfather
    6. Tartmaster - Insane Cop; Killed N0
    7. Cabinet96 - Doctor, Killed N1
    8. Heef - Town, Cop
    9. Arheiner - Town, ?
    10. Number 11 - Town, Dreamer
    11. MrPrez - Mafia, ?
    12. Lukic - Roleblocker; Lynched D3

    And that should be the game.

    I really hope I haven't horribly misread this somehow, lol.

    Ways this could all go tits up - Many, but maybe Heef is Godfather and bussed Lukic. Would be a sick ATG move.

    Summary of events:

    n0: Tartmaster dies, Insane Cop
    d1: No Lynch
    n1: Cabinet dies, doctor
    d2: No Lynch
    n2: No death
    d3: Lukic Lynched, mafia roleblocker
    n3: No death

    Summary of claims:

    Baxter Claims Watcher
    N0: No one visited Howe, N1: No one visited AVA

    Shri Claims "Non investigative town role with a useful special power"

    Heef Claims Cop
    N0: AVA Town, N1: Cabinet No Report, N2: Lukic mafia, N3: Shri town

    N11 Claims Dreamer
    One of AVA, Shri and Baxter is Mafia.
    One of MrPrez, Shri and Heef is Mafia
    Captain and Arheiner innocent

    Captain Claims Nurse
    N0: no one, N1: no one, N2: protect/rb AVA, N3: protect/rb Howe
     
    Captain, Jan 7, 2020
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  15. Arheiner SIA Yates

    There's several other possibilities you didn't mention that fully fit though.

    For instance Shri and Howe could be mafia together.
     
    Arheiner, Jan 7, 2020
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  16. Captain SSD Dong

    Well yes, there are many.
    But the main assumption for my post is that N2 the writeup - "The night seemed desperate. One man looked set to be a victim, being on lookout for the whole night. Yet no-one came." - seems to suggest that me roleblocking AVA stopped him from killing?

    And from the N3 writeup - "Sirens were flaying around significantly. Clearly someone was hurt. Yet as everyone woke, no fatailities were announced." - it sounds like me nursing Howe worked, which makes me think he's innocent.

    If anyone has other reports that disagrees with whatever I've assumed that would be handy as well.
     
    Captain, Jan 7, 2020
    #196

  17. MrPrez CM Dyer

    So many flaws.
    A) Why are you assuming Shri isn't godfather? That's still the most obvious possibility since he appeared in both and there's no reason to thing he isn't the godfather.
    B) Even if Shri wasn't maf, why is Baxter suddenly clear? (From my perspective he almost certainly is as I'm not maf and I HIGHLY doubt Heef is - leading me to believe that Shri is a maf by process of elimination. But you have no reason besides the fact that maf didn't kill the same night you nursed AVA. Which could easily just be a shit inactive maf not making a kill (the nights have been super long and we've often been waiting for orders). SK is probably more likely to exist in a mafia game than not.


    Kudos to Heef if he truly is mafia but realistically I just don't think the bus is a likelihood. It has to be Shri.
     
    MrPrez, Jan 7, 2020
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  18. MrPrez CM Dyer

    That is horrible formatted but hopefully it makes enough sense.
     
    MrPrez, Jan 7, 2020
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  19. HeathDavisSpeed HT Davis

    Hmmm. What info does Baxter have that might add to this?
     
    HeathDavisSpeed, Jan 7, 2020
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  20. Captain SSD Dong

    A) Because I'm assuming AVA is mafia, and Shri is one of the dream reports alongside AVA
    B) Because I'm assuming AVA is mafia, and Baxter is one of the dream reports alongside AVA

    You're right about inactive maf being a possibility. What's the chance three people didn't submit one order though?
     
    Captain, Jan 7, 2020
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