General Rugby Union Discussion

Discussion in 'Rugby Union Discussion' started by HeathDavisSpeed, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Barrett is definitely the best bench player in the world.
     
  2. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    Manu imo
     
  3. Notsure SM Green

    Barrett should become a fullback I think.
     
  4. Weeman27bob BE Force

    Maybe on top form Manu might be more of a threat, but it seems like every game for the All Blacks Barrett comes off the bench and runs through everyone.

    ​And it seems like every game Manu is injured...
     
  5. Rego RS Hutchinson

    Nah, he'd still be behind Ben Smith so no point. There's no way he'll start at FB for the Canes ever again either with our FB depth (NMS, Jane, Woodward, Marshall)
     
  6. Squeaks ZW Poole

    There's no way Barrett should be a fullback. People forget how good his running game is. First off this year before he got injured he was in amazing form and everyone always says he's never played well for the ABs but I remember him in probably one of his best gamed ever (apart from the goal kicking) in a rainy night in Napier against the Pumas.
     
  7. Mike ML Martyn

    How does that make Barrett ill-suited to fullback, or support the argument that he should be at fly-half rather than at the back?
     
  8. Rego RS Hutchinson

    He's a play maker, a trait much better suited to 10. As a whole he's a better 10. I remember when the Canes were starting him at 15 with Pisi at 10. He was decent but Barrett at 10 was the much better option.
     
  9. Squeaks ZW Poole

    You must not no the game I'm talking about. I see how saying he has a great running game isn't saying he's a better 10 but it's obviously Barrett has a great short and long kicking game and in that match he was a beautiful playmaker taking the ball to the line and putting guys in wholes or taking the wholes himself.
     
  10. Mariner CL Warrington

  11. SmellyStuff MP Chung

  12. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

  13. Howe JHF Howe

  14. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    He was the guy I wanted. So pretty happy with that
     
  15. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    I think Jake White would have been a better fit for a Northern Hemisphere teams. England not to win the 2019 world cup on this news. Eddie Jones will encourage them to play yes percentage rugby but also 15 man rugby. I think Jake White would have consolidated England's forward play with the backs chipping in 1-2 tries per game.

    Jake White most underrated coach in the world. I would have him as the next AB coach before I would have Gatland.
     
  16. Notsure SM Green

    I think the World Cup made England look worse than they are. I think they are probably the best of the NH teams already although Ireland are very close.
     
  17. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    Had they had Manu instead of Burgess they would have progressed to the knockout stages.

    I also think England are a great team but they have a confidence problem of not believing in themselves against the premier teams in the world. I also think they are a team like Australia - they only really have 22 test match standard players with a lot of guff after that, which means that selection decisions are absolutely critical for England yet for some reason whoever they pick at coach seems to be a boob at picking players unless he has about twenty matches to experiment with.

    Judging by the fans on this web site and how they talk there also appears to be a 180 degree disconnect as to how the game should be played between people from the SH and NH. Which is never going to be resolved. England need to come to the self realisation that they are a NH team and pick a coach that will play to their strengths rather than implementing a wider open style. Jake White was that man.
     
  18. BoyBlunder BOY Blunder

    Jake White didn't want the job afaik. He's being lined up for performance director iirc.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2015
  19. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    My bad about White, so thanks for that update.
    Did find this quote which furthers my point that Jones will try to change England into more of a SH team which is the wrong move. England have won a world cup and can again in their own style.
     
  20. Hurricane JD Hurricane

    And White said he would have liked the job had they just offered it to him, but they wanted him to do a beauty contest against Jones.
     

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